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GopherRock

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10472 on: November 10, 2020, 12:53:57 PM »
I'm surprised that a full stay-at-home hasn't come yet. Mayo banned all visitors from their facilities except in cases of childbirth or imminent death. It's also not a surprise that this COVID surge is two weeks after the first significant snowfall.

At least Walz is doing something. Gov. Doug Burgum up in North Dakota, at the behest of the state's hospitals, staff that test positive but are asymptomatic should be allowed to work. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10473 on: November 10, 2020, 01:04:26 PM »
California now starting to show the same uptrend seen elsewhere in cases. A few weeks ago, there was sort of a step change from flat in the low-3K 7-day MA range to flat in the low-4K daily range. Now it's turned upwards and our 7-day MA case rate is showing a clean curve upwards and we're almost to 6K/day.

Nationally, the 7-day MA on deaths just topped 1,000 again. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10474 on: November 10, 2020, 01:05:39 PM »
BTW I don't know what lockdowns will even do at this point to stop the spread. People are just going to go to gatherings at each others' houses. 

I see this thing getting a lot worse as we approach Christmas.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10475 on: November 10, 2020, 01:09:07 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on November 10, 2020, 09:02:31 AM
Will Russia ever change in that respect?  Janky nuclear plants, janky military, janky everything.  Like do something well, already!
MDOT-- STOP INTERJECTING COMPLETELY UNNECESSARY POLITICS INTO THE CORONAVIRUS DISCUSSION

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10476 on: November 10, 2020, 01:10:21 PM »
Georgia is still holding its own, some upward trend, but nothing YET dramatic.  My physical therapist told me she is booked solid now.  She was musing on what that means for COVID, she said most of it was NOT post-op (like me).  Restaurants are mostly doing pretty well from what I can see with some exceptions (usually ones that opened this year).  I really don't understand how this can be so bad in some states and relatively "OK" in others.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10477 on: November 10, 2020, 01:17:38 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on November 10, 2020, 01:10:21 PM
Georgia is still holding its own, some upward trend, but nothing YET dramatic.  My physical therapist told me she is booked solid now.  She was musing on what that means for COVID, she said most of it was NOT post-op (like me).  Restaurants are mostly doing pretty well from what I can see with some exceptions (usually ones that opened this year).  I really don't understand how this can be so bad in some states and relatively "OK" in others.
Trying to understand how much of it is weather, and how much is behavior, and how much of it is behavior that is being forced by weather...

I.e. California is a bit of a weird case because the weather in the Bay Area or Sacramento is significantly cooler than down here. Are the curves accelerating faster there? 

Or are the curves going up just as quickly down here as well because SoCal is full of selfish assholes who are just disregarding what they "should" be doing behavior-wise because of quarantine fatigue?

I think overall people here in California are being smart regarding masks, etc. But I know I've seen a LOT more people outside my household, sans-mask, and occasionally indoors, than I did 2-3 months ago. I'm taking risks that I wouldn't have back then. And I don't think I'm unique in that.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10478 on: November 10, 2020, 01:26:20 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on November 10, 2020, 09:31:09 AM
Russia and China (and Iran and North Korea) are not to be trusted.

With anything.
MDOT--

CUT THE POLITICAL CRAP ON THIS THREAD.

NOW.

OR YOU'LL BE TAKING A BREAK FROM THE BOARD
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10479 on: November 10, 2020, 01:29:23 PM »
Quote from: bwarbiany on November 10, 2020, 01:17:38 PM
I think overall people here in California are being smart regarding masks, etc. But I know I've seen a LOT more people outside my household, sans-mask, and occasionally indoors, than I did 2-3 months ago. I'm taking risks that I wouldn't have back then. And I don't think I'm unique in that.
This is why it's worse than ever.  People aren't even being as careful as they were in April/May.  I'm not sure I understand why it's so hard to be prudent for more than 5 minutes.  
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10480 on: November 10, 2020, 01:33:42 PM »
people are fatigued 

they've decided it's not worth it

because it's not killing enough folks
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10481 on: November 10, 2020, 01:37:39 PM »
Quote from: bwarbiany on November 10, 2020, 01:17:38 PM
Trying to understand how much of it is weather, and how much is behavior, and how much of it is behavior that is being forced by weather...

I.e. California is a bit of a weird case because the weather in the Bay Area or Sacramento is significantly cooler than down here. Are the curves accelerating faster there?

Or are the curves going up just as quickly down here as well because SoCal is full of selfish assholes who are just disregarding what they "should" be doing behavior-wise because of quarantine fatigue?

I think overall people here in California are being smart regarding masks, etc. But I know I've seen a LOT more people outside my household, sans-mask, and occasionally indoors, than I did 2-3 months ago. I'm taking risks that I wouldn't have back then. And I don't think I'm unique in that.
Where do we find comprehensive demographic data? Is there such a place?

I know most states are keeping some form, like Wisconsin. There, 65% of total cases are below 50 y/o. Ages 20-29 makes up the highest percentage, at 21%. In FL, 25-34 makes up the highest, at 18%.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10482 on: November 10, 2020, 01:44:51 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on November 10, 2020, 01:33:42 PM
people are fatigued

they've decided it's not worth it

because it's not killing enough folks
I wonder how many enough is.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10483 on: November 10, 2020, 01:46:04 PM »
we might find out in Iowa

20% positive, and has been for a few weeks

although nearly half of all deaths are from long term care facilities
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10484 on: November 10, 2020, 01:48:50 PM »
Hospitalizations trending down in Florida, even as cases trend up. Deaths are dropping down nicely too.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #10485 on: November 10, 2020, 02:31:36 PM »
I don't normally think of Georgia residents as being unusually prudent and sensible overall.

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