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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8792 on: September 16, 2020, 03:14:40 PM »
You can't count a positive result, and omit a negative result, for the same test.  It skews the data in an artificial direction.  This is the fundamental problem with your position.


I would not count it in either direction for calculating positivity rates.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8793 on: September 16, 2020, 09:23:43 PM »
My 9 yr old had some symptoms (fever,  sore throat), we ruled out Strep w a test, then her CV test came back inconclusive.   I was like, what!?  Apparently some low % of tests are just that.  I was later told by this care facility, and im not so sure I put much credibility in this,  those inconclusive tests were reported /defaulted to positive earlier during this CV period.  2nd test was neg.  Id like to know how that gets logged.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8794 on: September 16, 2020, 09:36:58 PM »
Curse you George Soros!

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8795 on: September 17, 2020, 12:41:21 AM »
Ha. The reality is, here you are parents of a kid...in school, she has a sibling in another school, meanwhile I coach her vball team and another vball team.  As a parent,  You can't have an inconclusive test.  You need a +/-.  The dominoes here are scary.  Luckily she was negative,  but going the other way, that would have pretty much meant the poor Mom that helps me but knows nothing of vball has to run the teams,  my kids stay home, my wife can't do surgeries for two weeks at a minimum, which screws up the surgery center schedule and now we have a 9 yr old w CV with 3 exposed people in our house. Even w a giant house, Its a cluster.  BTW,  the way the schools handle this,  her pod of 9 other 3rd graders would be sent home for 2 weeks.  They basically keep these younger kids in small pods wo any exposure to the other 3rd graders.  Its interesting all the playbooks being run on this.

Thus far, about 5 weeks in, her elementary district has had 1 kid positive out of about 1200.  The kids have all since returned.  The middle and HS have various hybrid plans.

Btw, I find it to be impossible that my wife hasn't been exposed to or had CV given her close contact w 100s of nurses, surgeons and patients since March. Not many cases in late March or April but plenty since.  She's an anesthesiologist and is literally in the face of this all day every day.  Thus, shes become quite hardened against woes and worries of teachers and others during CV.  I love sending her the thermo image gif of a patient spitting on the OR table when she's tubing a patient. 
This is where I love WFH.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8796 on: September 17, 2020, 07:20:58 AM »
Wooooo boy! An anesthesiologist! Someone married over their head!

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« Reply #8797 on: September 17, 2020, 08:39:59 AM »
Ha. The reality is, here you are parents of a kid...in school, she has a sibling in another school, meanwhile I coach her vball team and another vball team.  As a parent,  You can't have an inconclusive test.  You need a +/-.  The dominoes here are scary.  Luckily she was negative,  but going the other way, that would have pretty much meant the poor Mom that helps me but knows nothing of vball has to run the teams,  my kids stay home, my wife can't do surgeries for two weeks at a minimum, which screws up the surgery center schedule and now we have a 9 yr old w CV with 3 exposed people in our house. Even w a giant house, Its a cluster.  BTW,  the way the schools handle this,  her pod of 9 other 3rd graders would be sent home for 2 weeks.  They basically keep these younger kids in small pods wo any exposure to the other 3rd graders.  Its interesting all the playbooks being run on this.

Thus far, about 5 weeks in, her elementary district has had 1 kid positive out of about 1200.  The kids have all since returned.  The middle and HS have various hybrid plans.

Btw, I find it to be impossible that my wife hasn't been exposed to or had CV given her close contact w 100s of nurses, surgeons and patients since March. Not many cases in late March or April but plenty since.  She's an anesthesiologist and is literally in the face of this all day every day.  Thus, shes become quite hardened against woes and worries of teachers and others during CV.  I love sending her the thermo image gif of a patient spitting on the OR table when she's tubing a patient. 
This is where I love WFH.

Yeah, my wife is an outpatient physical therapist.  She sees 12-15 patients per day, 5 days per week.  Some of those are repeats so she has something like 30-40 unique  contacts each week.  She's a manual therapist and must work hands-on, so she's within 0 inches to a foot of her patients for 30 minutes or more, 12-15 times per day.  And at any given time in her clinic there are 25 patients, therapists, and staff.  They're all wearing masks but "social distance" between therapist and patient is impossible.  She's been doing this since March, minus the 6 weeks she was furloughed.  She feels about the same as your wife regarding the woes and worries of others.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8798 on: September 17, 2020, 09:45:31 AM »
I'm doing PT twice a week (same time as the wife).  Our therapist is quite good I think.  We wear a mask and wash our hands before starting.  She wipes down the gear before we enter.  They don't seem to be very busy, not many elective surgeries of course.

The surgeon's office is usually lightly attended as well.  

Neither of the therapists at this office has had it, which is a good sign it isn't incredibly contagious I suspect.

Georgia appears to be leveling off now around 2,000 new cases reported per day, no longer dropping.  School?

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8799 on: September 17, 2020, 10:08:58 AM »
I bet it's a gas, gas, gas. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8800 on: September 17, 2020, 10:24:04 AM »
COVID-19 emails from Nashville mayor's office show disturbing revelation


On June 30th, contact tracing was given a small view of coronavirus clusters. Construction and nursing homes were found to be causing problems with more than a thousand cases traced to each category, but bars and restaurants reported just 22 cases.

Leslie Waller from the health department asks, “This isn’t going to be publicly released, right? Just info for Mayor’s Office?"

“Correct, not for public consumption,” writes senior advisor Benjamin Eagles.

A month later, the health department was asked point blank about the rumor there are only 80 cases traced to bars and restaurants.

Reporter Nate Rau asks, “The figure you gave of 'more than 80' does lead to a natural question: If there have been over 20,000 positive cases of COVID-19 in Davidson and only 80 or so are traced to restaurants and bars, doesn’t that mean restaurants and bars aren’t a very big problem?"

Health department official Brian Todd asked five health department officials, "Please advise how you recommend I respond. "


https://fox17.com/news/local/covid-19-emails-from-nashville-mayors-office-show-disturbing-revelation

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8801 on: September 17, 2020, 10:29:34 AM »
How many of the 20,000 were traced to some other point of contact?  Maybe very few of them?

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8802 on: September 17, 2020, 10:31:23 AM »
How many of the 20,000 were traced to some other point of contact?  Maybe very few of them?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8803 on: September 17, 2020, 11:36:14 AM »
New Subject Offering: “COVID-19, SARS-CoV-2 and the Pandemic”

In Fall 2020, all MIT students and the general public are welcome to join Professors Richard Young and Facundo Batista as they discuss the science of the pandemic during this new class. Special guest speakers include: Anthony Fauci, David Baltimore, Britt Glaunsinger, Bruce Walker, Eric Lander, Michel Nussenzweig, Akiko Iwasaki, Arlene Sharpe, Kizzmekia Corbett, and others. The class will run from September 1, 2020 through December 8, 2020 and begin each Tuesday at 11:30 a.m. ET. Please note that MIT classes generally begin five minutes after the scheduled start time. See the syllabus for lecture details.

https://biology.mit.edu/undergraduate/current-students/subject-offerings/covid-19-sars-cov-2-and-the-pandemic/

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« Reply #8804 on: September 17, 2020, 11:55:56 AM »
JOHNSTON, Iowa (AP) — Gov. Kim Reynolds criticized the Des Moines school district Wednesday for not abandoning its online learning program and returning its more than 33,000 students to classrooms, saying other districts have managed to meet her requirement for in-person learning even as the state remains a national hotspot for coronavirus infections.

Reynolds called it “disappointing” that the Des Moines school board on Tuesday night approved a plan that continues solely online learning.

Education Department Director Ann Lebo said officials would begin a process to potentially punish the district for not being in compliance. Lebo also affirmed the possibility Des Moines students could be required to take additional classes after school usually ends next spring.

Des Moines officials argue it’s too risky for students and staff to return to classrooms under Reynolds’ order, which requires that schools hold at least half of classes in-person unless their community has a 15% coronavirus positivity rate. Health care experts typically call for a positivity rate of 5% or lower.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8805 on: September 17, 2020, 03:36:09 PM »
Most likely originating from Russian bots.
I "boosted" my Whoa Nellie sale on facebook and among the 100ish likes were some fake accounts who 'liked' with the angry face - all faux-religious 'people' hating on the NFL. 

Very odd.  Their algorithm knew enough to link it with football and to link the kneeling business with football, but not distinguish college and pro and it totally whiffed on everyone liking a sale.  
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