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Cincydawg · « **Reply #8680 on:** September 12, 2020, 05:06:01 AM »

I found this on line:

Across the U.S., the American Federation of Teachers lists 210 union members who have died. The list includes support staff and retirees as well as teachers.

That's in the ballpark I think of my rough estimates above, I'd GUESS 150 are retired teachers. And of course not every teacher is a member of that union.

longhorn320 · « **Reply #8681 on:** September 12, 2020, 07:31:58 AM »

Quote from: Cincydawg on September 12, 2020, 05:06:01 AM

I found this on line:

Across the U.S., the American Federation of Teachers lists 210 union members who have died. The list includes support staff and retirees as well as teachers.

That's in the ballpark I think of my rough estimates above, I'd GUESS 150 are retired teachers. And of course not every teacher is a member of that union.

I just dont think we will see near that many and thats because the opened school environment will be much safer then the norm

there will be lots of testing going on and any positives will be gotten early

theres going to be plenty of positives but far fewer deaths

betarhoalphadelta · « **Reply #8682 on:** September 12, 2020, 09:12:43 AM »

Quote from: Cincydawg on September 12, 2020, 04:43:19 AM

I presume teachers in the US typically range in age from 24 to 65.

Adults 65 and older account for 16% of the US population but 80% of COVID-19 deaths in the US, somewhat higher than their share of deaths from all causes (75%) over the same period.

Rounding up, we have 200,000 COVID related deaths to date, so 20%, or 4,000, are of teaching age (presuming no deaths under 24, which is not true, but I'm rounding. That is of a total population under 65 of 275 million people, total.

There are 3.2 million public school teachers in the US, or 1.16% of the population under 65. So, we'd expect under 50 to die of COVID overall without any additional exposure due to school activities.

So, if 50 die without school, we might expect the figure to "double??" with school? Is school more prone to exposures than "normal life"? I think "it depends" obviously.

No doubt we will hear stories of this or that teacher dying of COVID, we already have, but the figures overall likely will be relatively small because of the statistics. We'd really need to know how many ELEVATED deaths are in that group, which could be rough to calculate because the numbers overall are small.

Check your math. 20% is 40,000. Not 4,000.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #8683 on:** September 12, 2020, 09:28:23 AM »

Well, crap. I'll fix it, thanks for catching that error. Just an order of mag.

MrNubbz · « **Reply #8684 on:** September 12, 2020, 10:14:40 AM »

Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on September 12, 2020, 01:26:27 AM

Ohhhh nooo, I used one of the naughty words correctly, to convey an idea! That somehow makes me uncivil!

Can you guys age out already?

Can you get a grip,after all children could be reading.And after all your parents raised you right,we know this because you have told us so.So share with them your creative vocabulary - I'm sure they'd glisten/glow with pride

Cincydawg · « **Reply #8685 on:** September 12, 2020, 10:37:18 AM »

http://www.ipsnews.net/2020/06/curious-case-covid-19-africa/

FearlessF · « **Reply #8686 on:** September 12, 2020, 01:54:29 PM »

Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on September 11, 2020, 10:21:18 PM

Thanks for going the political/asshat route. Seriously?
Okay........fuckkk.........how can I word this so that you focus on the actual issue????? HOW MANY TEACHER DEATHS ABOVE AVERAGE WILL IT TAKE FOR A MAJORITY OF OUR COUNTRY TO HALT IN-PERSON SCHOOLING?

this isn't about above average
this is about in person schooling killing teachers directly from exposing them to COVID

let me know where we can get good believable numbers on teacher's deaths do to COVID
political asshats and medical asshats wanting to profit from numbers are the problem, not me

847badgerfan · « **Reply #8687 on:** September 12, 2020, 02:06:09 PM »

I find this interesting.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm?fbclid=IwAR2-muRM3tB3uBdbTrmKwH1NdaBx6PpZo2kxotNwkUXlnbZXCwSRP2OmqsI&_ga=2.7276727.426654790.1599933721-836819906.1594823322#Comorbidities

847badgerfan · « **Reply #8688 on:** September 12, 2020, 02:11:58 PM »

Wisconsin is seeing a pretty large uptick right now. Labor Day, and the colleges, I'm sure.

Here is the data. It's mostly the kiddies.

https://www.dhs.wisconsin.gov/covid-19/cases.htm

betarhoalphadelta · « **Reply #8689 on:** September 12, 2020, 02:22:30 PM »

Quote from: 847badgerfan on September 12, 2020, 02:06:09 PM

I find this interesting.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm?fbclid=IwAR2-muRM3tB3uBdbTrmKwH1NdaBx6PpZo2kxotNwkUXlnbZXCwSRP2OmqsI&_ga=2.7276727.426654790.1599933721-836819906.1594823322#Comorbidities

What I don't like about that is that it tells us nothing about obesity. It's only listed as a contributing factor in ~6k deaths. But with >40% of the US being obese, I don't buy that only 3-4% of covid deaths met the standard of obesity per BMI.

Maybe only those few were so incredibly obese that it was listed as a contributing factor, but what does that mean for the rest of us?

847badgerfan · « **Reply #8690 on:** September 12, 2020, 02:25:19 PM »

I think it means that guys like you (and me) are probably OK. Hell, I was much heavier when I had the thing, and I made it through. Nothing lingering here.

I'm obese when it comes to the general rules too. But, my doctor was pretty happy with me at my physical yesterday. Only thing is he'd like me to cut down on red meat. That's hard for a blood type O guy. I crave it.

OrangeAfroMan · « **Reply #8691 on:** September 12, 2020, 02:47:49 PM »

The apathy of additional (and unnecessary) deaths by a certain half of the political spectrum is, yet again, disgusting.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #8692 on:** September 12, 2020, 02:51:04 PM »

I do not care.

FearlessF · « **Reply #8693 on:** September 12, 2020, 02:55:58 PM »

the republican party is not killing people, imo

teachers and students are not being forced to enter classrooms

individuals are assuming some risk, unnecessarily

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