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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8624 on: September 10, 2020, 10:13:13 PM »
I'd still like reliable information on co-morbidities. I don't care where you got it, or how. I am interested in what other factors contribute to the various levels of severity with this thing.

When I had it, it was rough for a couple of days. My wife had a little cough - almost asymptomatic, because she has allergies and is always coughing. Tough to tell.

Since I had it, I've dropped 35 pounds, cut way back on my cigars and changed what and why and when I eat. Cut back on the booze too. The goal is to not have co-morbidities when the next virus comes out.

It's scary, so people need to get in shape, if at all possible.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8625 on: September 10, 2020, 10:51:23 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on September 10, 2020, 10:13:13 PM

It's scary, so people need to get in shape, if at all possible.
that's tough for me
I like red meat, cigars, beer and booze
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8626 on: September 10, 2020, 11:10:53 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on September 10, 2020, 09:05:53 PM
I really wish we could get reliable information on co-morbidities.

If that 34 year old was obese, had diabetes, had COPD, well, that's a ticking time bomb of a combo when you pile on this virus on top of it all.
I heard the South Carolina teacher was only 28. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8627 on: September 10, 2020, 11:13:39 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on September 10, 2020, 10:51:23 PM
that's tough for me
I like red meat, cigars, beer and booze
I keep harping on the question of whether it's affecting those who are obese or those who are out of shape...

...because I'm obese, despite carrying only a 38" waist (they say the goal is <40" for health). 

I'm not "out" of shape. I can walk/hike miles and miles w/o a problem. But even if I get into better shape, I'll never be "normal" weight, although I might fall out of the obese category. 

So I'm also wondering about that particular comorbidity. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8628 on: September 10, 2020, 11:27:07 PM »
Quote from: bwarbiany on September 10, 2020, 11:13:39 PM
I keep harping on the question of whether it's affecting those who are obese or those who are out of shape...

...because I'm obese, despite carrying only a 38" waist (they say the goal is <40" for health).

I'm not "out" of shape. I can walk/hike miles and miles w/o a problem. But even if I get into better shape, I'll never be "normal" weight, although I might fall out of the obese category.

So I'm also wondering about that particular comorbidity.
Yeah, that is pretty much me too and I wonder the same thing. Would my size hurt me or would my active lifestyle help me?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8629 on: September 11, 2020, 12:31:28 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on September 10, 2020, 09:15:48 PM
Slade was teaching in-person when the academic year started on Aug. 6, Principal Raina Holmes said, but began quarantining after he had contact with someone who was positive at a church meeting. His last day of teaching was Aug. 21.
Right.
Our in-person schooling will begin when the zip code of our school district meets certain guidelines.  Great, right?  Except that I don't live in my district's zip code - most of the teachers don't.  So we're coming in from all across the city into one big building, with central air, touching all the same door handles, using the same bathrooms, etc. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8630 on: September 11, 2020, 06:45:11 AM »
I wouldn't worry about touching the surfaces if you wash your hands. Wearing the mask seems to be the key here. I'd think/hope the schools figured out better AC filtering. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8631 on: September 11, 2020, 09:13:13 AM »
we're looking into HVAC filtering at out small office.

It's not inexpensive
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8632 on: September 11, 2020, 10:20:11 AM »
What is there to be filtered?  No air handling system is going to filter out the virus itself by any normal means.  You can filter particulate that could have virus attached to it.  I'd be careful as there probably are charlatans selling junk out there.

https://www.epa.gov/coronavirus/air-cleaners-hvac-filters-and-coronavirus-covid-19
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8633 on: September 11, 2020, 10:26:03 AM »
it's a scrubber

supposedly it can filter out smells, maybe it's just deodorant
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8634 on: September 11, 2020, 10:35:43 AM »
Be interesting to know how it "scrubs".  You don't want ozone anything.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8635 on: September 11, 2020, 11:04:41 AM »
from my meat packing daze...........

Multistage wet scrubbers are equally as effective as incineration for high intensity odor control
and are used to about the same extent as incinerators. Sodium hypochlorite is considered to be the
most effective scrubbing agent for odor removal, although other oxidants can be used. Recently,
chlorine dioxide has been used as an effective scrubbing agent. Venturi scrubbers are often used to
remove PM from waste streams before treatment by the multistage wet scrubbers. Plants that are
located near residential or commercial areas may treat process and fugitive emissions by ducting the
plant ventilation air through a single-stage wet scrubbing system to minimize odorous emissions.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8636 on: September 11, 2020, 11:08:51 AM »
Interesting, those chlorinating agents would attack nearly all odors, but then you have their residue to remove somehow.  I presume they then neutralize any excess with a reducing agent, somehow ensuring good contact with everything.

I don't know anything about it, other than coal emissions scrubbing.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8637 on: September 11, 2020, 11:12:02 AM »
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