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Our school district had 8 days of ~50% attendance interspersed with 2 days of distance-learning.  Then this week has been fully distance-learning.  Tuesday we open up fully (minus the kids who have taken the online option).

I expect to see a spike in 15-20 days, at which point we will go back to distance-learning, which we didn't really test before making the decision to open up fully.

keep us posted CW Im very interested in this

I don't want to post this in the game weekend stream thread and pollute that with corona, but did anyone catch the S.AL @ USM game last night? Watching the coaching staffs was like a perfect example of "wearing a mask... in theory..."

Mask on. Mask off. Mask under the nose. Mask as a neckwarmer. Then remember you're supposed to be wearing it and putting it back. Mask off in the huddle with all the players (hmm, no social distancing), mask right back on when you're distanced from others on the sideline. Masks off (or under the nose) when going and giving a hug to the opposing coaching staff after the game. 

As I said, I hope that not a single player was contagious with COVID last night, because if a single one was--you've got a superspreader incident. 

I don't want to post this in the game weekend stream thread and pollute that with corona, but did anyone catch the S.AL @ USM game last night? Watching the coaching staffs was like a perfect example of "wearing a mask... in theory..."

Mask on. Mask off. Mask under the nose. Mask as a neckwarmer. Then remember you're supposed to be wearing it and putting it back. Mask off in the huddle with all the players (hmm, no social distancing), mask right back on when you're distanced from others on the sideline. Masks off (or under the nose) when going and giving a hug to the opposing coaching staff after the game.

As I said, I hope that not a single player was contagious with COVID last night, because if a single one was--you've got a superspreader incident.

These players have been working out together for several months at this point.  They've been with the coaches for over a month.  Most teams have had some infections, weathered them, and gotten their players back after their quarantine period.

As I keep saying, if there's going to be spread among players, it's going to come from behaviors outside the locker room, practice field, and playing field.  

That's not to say that just one player couldn't break the bubble, make a booty call a week ago, get infected, and spread it on the field to a bunch of other players and coaches that are being super-careful.  That's certainly possible, in theory.  But in practice, I don't believe at all that it would be just ONE player, it would be many, from both teams.  I do expect to see infections on teams ramp up as more and more students arrive onto the campuses.  But I don't believe on-field interaction is anywhere close to the largest threat vector faced by any player.

Leaders need to start making plans for how to live with this virus among us-- forever.

This is how stupid we are.  It could be gone in a month if we had an actual shutdown.  But no, we throw up our hands and figure out ways to deal with it forever.

*not you, Utee, us, the collective.  

Many European countries enforced very strict lockdowns.  Their numbers had diminished to almost zero.  And yet now, they're seeing a resurgence.

The total area under the curve isn't changing.  Not for them, not for us, not for anyone.

Only an effective vaccine, or reaching herd immunity (if that's even possible), will stop the spread.

I don't believe we'll ever have an effective vaccine, and the lockdowns are, in reality, effectively delaying the global population from reaching herd immunity, making all of this last longer rather than diminishing its impact.

If "we" can keep the health care system from being overwhelmed it would be good, relatively.

The wife and I had elective surgery last month.  That has reopened here at least.

France may need to shut down again, at least a lot of it.

Yeah, there have definitely been benefits to the shutdowns.  They've kept the hospitals from being overwhelmed (in most cases), they've allowed time for docs and scientists to develop better treatment options for severe cases, and they've given the development of a potential vaccine a little breathing room.

But overall, they're just delaying the inevitable, and causing plenty of damage in the meantime.

My one son at Wisconsin had his only in-person class canceled this week.  Not sure if its for the whole term or not.  My other son at Baylor has a couple in person classes but they're talking about moving them to all on-line.  Both kids were tested before they let them on campus. Both schools are sending them home at Thanksgiving for the duration of the term and finals. UNC is sending their students home again now. People are trying to get back to normal.