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Topic: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8246 on: August 25, 2020, 11:42:32 AM »
State hit hard early stayed pretty down, and states hit hard later are declining, all well before we'd have any herd immunity based on this cycle of infections.

Maybe it's better hygiene, etc., and maybe it's latent resistance.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8247 on: August 25, 2020, 11:51:37 AM »
I found some youtube videos of the surgery.  It's fairly brutal and vigorous apparently, something like putting lift on your Jeep.
Yeah, but at least with the Jeep, if I figure out I need a different tool or part that I didn't anticipate, I can hold off for a day or two (or the next weekend) waiting for it to show up ;-) 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8248 on: August 25, 2020, 01:09:25 PM »
Anyone who has worked under a car knows that pieces often seize and can take a good hammering to get them out.

I guess arthopods who work on joints do the same thing.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8249 on: August 25, 2020, 03:00:58 PM »
Months into the COVID-19 pandemic, wearing a mask while out in public has become the recommended practice. However, many still question the effectiveness of this.

To allay these doubts, Padmanabha Prasanna Simha, from the Indian Space Research Organisation, and Prasanna Simha Mohan Rao, from the Sri Jayadeva Institute of Cardiovascular Sciences and Research, experimentally visualized the flow fields of coughs under various common mouth covering scenarios. They present their findings in the journal Physics of Fluids.

"If a person can reduce the extent of how much they contaminate the environment by mitigating the spread, it's a far better situation for other healthy individuals who may enter places that have such contaminated areas," Simha said.

Density and temperature are intricately related, and coughs tend to be warmer than their surrounding area. Tapping into this connection, Simha and Rao utilized a technique called schlieren imaging, which visualizes changes in density, to capture pictures of voluntary coughs from five test subjects. By tracking the motion of a cough over successive images, the team estimated velocity and spread of the expelled droplets.

Unsurprisingly, they found N95 masks to be the most effective at reducing the horizontal spread of a cough. The N95 masks reduced a cough's initial velocity by up to a factor of 10 and limit its spread to between 0.1 and 0.25 meters.

An uncovered cough, in contrast, can travel up to 3 meters, but even a simple disposable mask can bring this all the way down to 0.5 meters.


https://phys.org/news/2020-08-effectiveness-masks.html
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8250 on: August 26, 2020, 01:46:59 AM »
Just came across an article in the Des Moines Register, Johnson County (home to the U of Iowa) has positivity rate of > 30% of tests administered for the 3rd day in a row, 4th day in a row over 20%. The governor's benchmark is for school districts to offer at least 50% in-person unless a school district is in a county with > 15% positivity rate over 14-days and at least 10% of students absent.
Students have returned to the U of Iowa. I am sure their close proximity to each other is contributing.
I am not an epidemiologist. Given the virulence of this virus, I am curious how these standards are established. If you must wait and wait until the outbreak is uncontrollable, is this standard uncontrollable? Is this standard one that is for public health, or other reasons? Is it the right standard?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8251 on: August 26, 2020, 07:07:38 AM »
We probably don't know what the right standard for much of anything is.  Test positive rates are impacted by things out of one's control at times, like how many choose to get tested.  We have a test site here at the airport that can handle 5,000 tests per day, and they routinely test well under a thousand.

The test I had is not something I would like to endure again.

GA is still dropping on every metric.  Maybe it's mask wearing, I'm leaning to thinking not.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8252 on: August 26, 2020, 08:23:52 AM »
I guess arthopods who work on joints do the same thing.
Huh?What do crustaceans have to do with surgery/PT?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8253 on: August 26, 2020, 08:52:17 AM »
Orthopedists are sometimes referred to as arthropods.

The utube surgery involved a lot of rather aggressive poking and pulling and inserting etc.  They don't mess around.  If the probe resists going in through the incision, they gorilla it.  Well, they gorilla it at the start, probe is going in, period.

I have six "holes", I think I counted right, two very close together on the bicep which initially was painful.  I had a nerve block that was a bit weird.  I'm getting stitches out this morning, shortly, and the wife is going for PT, same building, about 6 blocks from here.  I don't see any evidence for infection anywhere, which is good, they didn't give me amoxicillin either.  I chatted with the PT lady, she said I'd be on PT after they take out the threads, and to take an ibu before coming.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8254 on: August 26, 2020, 10:06:53 AM »
We probably don't know what the right standard for much of anything is.  Test positive rates are impacted by things out of one's control at times, like how many choose to get tested.  We have a test site here at the airport that can handle 5,000 tests per day, and they routinely test well under a thousand.

The test I had is not something I would like to endure again.

GA is still dropping on every metric.  Maybe it's mask wearing, I'm leaning to thinking not.
Are indoor bars open?  Indoor restaurants at >50% capacity?


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8255 on: August 26, 2020, 12:26:16 PM »
Are indoor bars open?  Indoor restaurants at >50% capacity?


We don't really have pure bars here.  There are restaurants that are pub-like that serve food.  The one next door was at half capacity for a while, but I noticed they are full up now, and crowded, the tables are back where they were.  I did not look inside, but they have booths inside.  The places we do dine have about 50% capacity inside, and it's hurting them on weekends in particular financially.  

We have reservations at Lure tonight, I requested outdoor dining if possible.  We dined there a week or so back and ate at the bar, we walked in and they were full, the tables are spread out.

Gyms and beauty salons are open with the usual restrictions.  The wife's church is reservation only and less than half capacity.  It's a large church (not mega) and I think they added some additional Masses.  They have one in Spanish on Saturdays.  No communion.

We were just at Costco, masks required, and used by everyone I saw.  Plexiglas etc.  

But, none of this is new, it was like this 2 months ago.  In fact, my impression from walking around town here is that mask wearing has become less frequent.

I was just at the doctor's to get stitches removed.  I was the only patient I saw there the entire time.  The seating area normally would accommodate 20 or so people waiting, it's a largish office.  They have their own X-ray, and MRI is next door.  




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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8256 on: August 26, 2020, 12:26:44 PM »
there's a new mask ordinance in Chicago

I'm sure that will help with the bars and diners
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8257 on: August 26, 2020, 12:32:30 PM »
I've noticed that stores have had to hire extra folks to clean shopping carts, monitor entrances, clean surfaces, etc.

The local Whole Foods where I park to see the doctor has two "guards" at both entrances.

I usually walk to the doc but today we were heading to Costco, which is about 7 miles NW of us.

Those temperature forehead readers make you forget stuff.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8258 on: August 26, 2020, 12:41:23 PM »
doesn't seem like things are getting wiped down much here any longer

folks don't appear to be afraid of touching things as was the case in April
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #8259 on: August 26, 2020, 01:00:33 PM »
There was a fear earlier that it is transmitted by hard surfaces.  That fear has abated with more data.

 

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