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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6146 on: June 30, 2020, 03:02:06 PM »
We' re at 45,000 cases per day now and it's doubling every 40 days.  100,000 could be reached by the start of CFB, easily.  And that's KNOWN cases.
but thats giving no affect for closing bars and other places
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6147 on: June 30, 2020, 03:14:04 PM »
We' re at 45,000 cases per day now and it's doubling every 40 days.  100,000 could be reached by the start of CFB, easily.  And that's KNOWN cases.
we could halt all testing

known cases would go WAY down
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6148 on: June 30, 2020, 03:17:16 PM »
we could halt all testing

known cases would go WAY down
thats exactly the logic behind more positives mean more deaths
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6149 on: June 30, 2020, 04:04:47 PM »
But in fairness to 320, you were referencing Texas specifically (5000 cases / 100 deaths daily) where 2% would be significantly higher than what has been observed to date.
That is true.

Personally, I am of the belief that there isn't something magical in the Texas air.  The bulk of their infections have come in the last 10 days, too.

2% is still a pretty good number, IMO.

But even at 1.5% you're looking at 75 deaths/day.  

I'd love to be wrong.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6150 on: June 30, 2020, 04:05:10 PM »
The new case figures are going up so fast now I have to think more deaths will follow in 2-3 weeks, obviously without such a dramatic increase.  The surge in hospital bed usage in GA is a concern.  These exponential things can run away from your ability to keep up in a hurry.

I fear we're nearly all going to contract it at some point.

I've felt since late March this was basically a certainty.  Well, not ALL of us will contract it, but whatever number it is that approaches herd immunity, so perhaps 70% or so.


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« Reply #6151 on: June 30, 2020, 04:15:38 PM »
I've felt since late March this was basically a certainty.  Well, not ALL of us will contract it, but whatever number it is that approaches herd immunity, so perhaps 70% or so.


Sadly, I believe this to be the case.

It didn't HAVE to be this way.  Take a look at Europe, PA, NJ, NY, etc. 

Social distancing will never work here.  Distrust of the government.  Distrust of science.  Distrust of experts.  Valuing the individual over the collective good.  Conspiracy theories are mainstream.  There's just way too much to overcome.

Let's just hope a vaccine is coming shortly.  I'd rather not have millions of deaths if we can help it.

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« Reply #6152 on: June 30, 2020, 04:20:31 PM »
Sadly, I believe this to be the case.

It didn't HAVE to be this way.  Take a look at Europe, PA, NJ, NY, etc. 

Social distancing will never work here.  Distrust of the government.  Distrust of science.  Distrust of experts.  Valuing the individual over the collective good.  Conspiracy theories are mainstream.  There's just way too much to overcome.

Let's just hope a vaccine is coming shortly.  I'd rather not have millions of deaths if we can help it.
Huh?  Much of Europe, PA, NY, NJ are all examples of complete shit-shows with unbelievably high death per millions numbers.  Plus, all of the places you list will have further waves of new cases the moment they begin opening up indoor facilities.  It's not just going away.  We've already seen it happen in Germany, South Korea, and Shanghai.

The deaths can be kept down if we can keep it out of nursing homes and LT care facilities. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6153 on: June 30, 2020, 04:28:15 PM »
it didn't have to be this way that the American people distrust everyone and everything

crap media, crap politicians
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6154 on: June 30, 2020, 04:28:50 PM »
DES MOINES, Iowa (IOWA'S NEWS NOW) — Governor Kim Reynolds says the massive surge in reported COVID-19 recoveries in Iowa over the last 24- hours is because of a revised protocol for determining case recoveries by the Iowa Department of Public Health.

IDPH data shows 5,324 new recoveries during the time between 10:00 Monday morning and 10:00 Tuesday morning - a 30% increase from Monday's total of 17,711 and 23% of the pandemic total of 23,035.

During a press conference Tuesday morning in Steamboat Rock, Governor Reynolds said confirmed COVID-19 cases in Iowa will now be considered recovered 28 days after a positive test unless the state is told otherwise, like in situations of hospitalization. The governor says the change comes because state investigators following up on confirmed cases statuses aren't hearing back from people that have tested positive for the virus.

Aside from the seismic shift in activity and recovery rates because of the adjusted rationale, IDPH's COVID-19 data is showing an increase of 213 confirmed cases of the virus from 10:00 a.m. on June 29 to 10:00 a.m. on June 30. Those new cases come from 3,345 new tests. Five more deaths are also being reported over that 24-hour stretch - meaning 712 Iowans have now died from COVID-19 during the pandemic.


There are now 28,941 total cases confirmed in Iowa from 303,772 tests. The positivity rate is 9.53%.

RMCC data shows 133 current hospitalizations for the virus in Iowa - 14 more than yesterday. 34 of those patients are in the ICU - one fewer than Monday. 20 patients are on ventilators - two more than 24 hours ago.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6156 on: June 30, 2020, 04:48:39 PM »
I suspect/presume as the numbers get worse, people will modify their habits and practices on their own and stop going to high risk places and activities (not all, but many).  This could mean the rate of increase will slow, perhaps from this point, perhaps it will take another week or two.

This shot up so fast I think some folks were caught somewhat unawares.  

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6157 on: June 30, 2020, 05:08:22 PM »
I'm worried about a rough fall and winter. While not definitive, there is pretty decent evidence that antibody immunity wanes over a few months. Reinfections are likely. Another wave of deaths could happen. Flu season is coming, which will compound our problems.

Over the long term, things will be ok. There is a lot of evidence that T cell response to corona may be long lived and reduce symptoms. That response may be related to other coronaviruses (colds) and may explain why so many people have mild to no symptoms. In any event, in a couple years this may be another cold. But this fall...

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6158 on: June 30, 2020, 05:11:18 PM »
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/505232-fauci-predicts-100000-new-covid-19-cases-per-day-if-us-cant-control
I suppose this could be construed as a "prediction"


"I would not be surprised if we go up to 100,000 [cases] a day if this does not turn around and so I am very concerned," he added.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6159 on: June 30, 2020, 05:14:15 PM »
 

Social distancing will never work here.  Distrust of the government.  Distrust of science.  Distrust of experts.  Valuing the individual over the collective good.  
You could save some time and just label the umbrella these all fall under:  stupidity.  
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