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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5950 on: June 27, 2020, 09:45:32 AM »
beach party bingo isn't nearly as much fun 6 feet apart
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5951 on: June 27, 2020, 10:05:32 AM »
beach party bingo isn't nearly as much fun 6 feet apart
Yeah, I imagine some younger folks do "get together" on the beach, but they will do so elsewhere as easily I suspect.

I don't see a beach as being anything but a long thin park.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5952 on: June 27, 2020, 10:31:11 AM »
I think there's another aspect to it...

One of the exemptions here in CA on the statewide mask order refers to dine-in restaurants. 


  • Persons who are seated at a restaurant or other establishment that offers food or beverage service, while they are eating or drinking, provided that they are able to maintain a distance of at least six feet away from persons who are not members of the same household or residence.


The idea isn't that if you and your friends all want to go out to brunch together, that you should do so and not wear masks. Restaurants/bars are not intended to be opened so that large parties of people not from the same household will congregate together and just happen to be 6' apart from other large parties of people not from the same household. 

This is one of the keys to a beach closure. Young people don't go to the beach alone, and they DEFINITELY don't go with their families--Ew!--they go with their friends. Their friends who live in different households. 

So maybe that group of 6 friends stay 6' away from another group of 6 friends, but again you're mixing households and by doing so drastically increasing the likelihood of spread.

Now, it's entirely possible--probable, even--that many of those groups of young people will still form and have July 4 BBQs at one of their houses instead of going to the beach.

So will it have much of a practical effect? Maybe not. But the issue isn't dad, mom, and their two toddlers going to the beach and staying away from other beachgoers, it's people who are NOT of the same household being close together on the beach, even if they stay apart from other beachgoing groups. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5953 on: June 27, 2020, 11:23:11 AM »
so, Ohio, and Cali's Death rates from coronavirus (COVID-19) as of June 26, (per 100,000 people) are pretty good
Pennsylvania not so good

I understand this is not the only measurement of "good"
I firmly believe that if some other states had shut down for just a bit longer the numbers would be as low as PA's are.  Maybe even be on the road to having a football season.

But then there would have been a great wailing and gnashing of teeth because we shut down needlessly.

They say you know it worked if you think it was a huge overreaction. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5954 on: June 27, 2020, 11:54:04 AM »
Our governor cannot make his mouth say the words, "Wear a mask."

Daddy wouldn't like it.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5955 on: June 27, 2020, 12:37:45 PM »
We were just out for a walk, I think more people are wearing masks, even when they don't need to.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5956 on: June 27, 2020, 12:41:14 PM »
We were just out for a walk, I think more people are wearing masks, even when they don't need to.


Here in PA nearly everyone is wearing a mask.  

I suppose if there's a bright side to getting hit hard, that's it.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5957 on: June 27, 2020, 12:56:51 PM »
The park was pretty sparsely populated for a Saturday.  There are a lot of groups doing exercises out and about, some pretty large (35 or so folks) but they aren't close together (generally).  We passed a gym advertising that it's open and quite a few folks were in the parking lot with gear, I could not see inside.

Speaking of gyms, I have a notion that is one place younger single folks go to meet other younger single folks, particularly if one is fairly fit.  I have not looked inside an indoor gym, but their normal configuration would be almost ideal for spreading a respiratory illness.

I think of a beach as a linear park, but I can see how they can become crowded on July 4.  I make it a point to avoid crowded beaches anyway.

So, potential areas for COVID spread over the past month could be:

1.  Protests
2.  Gyms
3.  Private larger parties
4.  Beaches and parks
5.  Random encounters
6.  Elevators, public transit, air travel, shopping malls (?)

I guess with item 5 that covers it.  I don't know if one is notably the worst, e.g., I'm not sure any single action would be all that effective at this point (beyond wearing a mask).


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5958 on: June 27, 2020, 01:09:43 PM »
The park was pretty sparsely populated for a Saturday.  There are a lot of groups doing exercises out and about, some pretty large (35 or so folks) but they aren't close together (generally).  We passed a gym advertising that it's open and quite a few folks were in the parking lot with gear, I could not see inside.

Speaking of gyms, I have a notion that is one place younger single folks go to meet other younger single folks, particularly if one is fairly fit.  I have not looked inside an indoor gym, but their normal configuration would be almost ideal for spreading a respiratory illness.

I think of a beach as a linear park, but I can see how they can become crowded on July 4.  I make it a point to avoid crowded beaches anyway.

So, potential areas for COVID spread over the past month could be:

1.  Protests
2.  Gyms
3.  Private larger parties
4.  Beaches and parks
5.  Random encounters
6.  Elevators, public transit, air travel, shopping malls (?)

I guess with item 5 that covers it.  I don't know if one is notably the worst, e.g., I'm not sure any single action would be all that effective at this point (beyond wearing a mask).


I belong to a Planet Fitness here in Florida. I go three out of four days and I can tell you the way they have it set up is actually quite well with respect to distancing.  Every other machine is closed down and you have a mandatory cleaning of each machine you use both before and after plus most people are wearing masks with the exception of people doing cardio but they are far far apart from each other
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5959 on: June 27, 2020, 01:13:19 PM »
Good to hear, gym reopenings if done properly may not be a significant transmission site.

I didn't mention salons,  barbers, nail polishers, etc.  Should have.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5960 on: June 27, 2020, 01:29:46 PM »
I didn't mention salons,  barbers, nail polishers, etc.  Should have.
Everyone's masked up at those places. 

I suspect bars are a major problem, because you can't drink without taking the mask off. And at least for the young people, I doubt they're distancing much when they go. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5961 on: June 27, 2020, 01:32:22 PM »
Somehow I managed not to mention bars.  Geesh.

We dined at a very nice Indian place last night we had not tried before, ate outside.  I went inside to check the place out.  Tables had been "distanced" but the bar seating was fixed.  There was one guy at the bar.  The place was pretty crowded, and for good reason.

It's not far from us but we had never tried it before.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5962 on: June 27, 2020, 02:41:17 PM »
Our governor cannot make his mouth say the words, "Wear a mask."

Daddy wouldn't like it.
Oklahoma is in phase 3 and doing very well

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5963 on: June 27, 2020, 02:48:52 PM »
I think it would help a lot of wearing a mask was not politicized.

Too late for that one though.


 

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