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Topic: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5516 on: June 20, 2020, 01:01:27 PM »
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5517 on: June 20, 2020, 01:01:59 PM »
Gatherings of people who are already voting for him?  You think a lot of independent moderates are risking their health to attend Trump's rallies? 
Yes.  It’s like a pep rally.  Getting his base fired up. Getting them to believe what they see and here in person versus what they read. 

we may not like it- but you have to admit it has been effective for him 
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« Reply #5518 on: June 20, 2020, 01:06:50 PM »
If we are to have self-government, then we have politics.  The problem isn't our "political system."  The problem is us.  We elect these slack-jawed jackanapes to represent us and lead us.  They tell us blatant falsehoods and we are either too stupid to see the lies or we see the lies and elect them anyway because after all both sides lie and we'd rather have "our" liar in power than "their" liar.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5519 on: June 20, 2020, 01:07:00 PM »
As hard as I try to understand other opinions I just can’t understand this one.

Every day for weeks now- we have watched thousands of people gathering in extremely close proximity, arm in arm, holding hands, yelling, screaming. You don’t think those people were a big FU?

as far as POTUS- this has always been his thing. He has never, nor will ever get good press coverage.  His winning formula has been- go right to the people.  What- do you think he should just hide in his basement and take pre-scripted softball questions from a the one media outlet that likes him? He doesn’t have the benefit of 5 of the 6 large media outlet working to get him elected like his opponent does- in fact obviously the opposite.

Hell- I can’t stand him but that is obvious - his only avenue to win is these rally’s. 
He's the president and this rally goes against all the guidelines his government has recommended. It's a blatant middle finger to everyone who has died, gotten sick, lost a job, gone months without seeing people, etc. It's despicable. 

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« Reply #5520 on: June 20, 2020, 01:12:14 PM »
He's the president and this rally goes against all the guidelines his government has recommended. It's a blatant middle finger to everyone who has died, gotten sick, lost a job, gone months without seeing people, etc. It's despicable.
No.  It doesn’t. Oklahoma is in phase 3. 
i think the million or so people who tried to get tickets feel the lawlessness of the protests, the innocent police who have lost their lives, the innocent bystanders who have been injured, the countless small business owners who have lost everything to rioting and looting, the egging on of all this by most media, and their blatant and obvious hypocrisy- is beyond despicable. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5521 on: June 20, 2020, 01:12:55 PM »
Most of us agree that a rally is "ill advised" from a public health standpoint.  So were the protests.  So are folks completely flouting common sense in other aspects of life.  Some people call the COVID thing a "hoax" (without really defining what they mean).  I guess they think it "no worse than flu", or something.

One aspect of freedom is that it is paired with responsibility.  The less of the latter we have collectively, the less of the former will will have.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5522 on: June 20, 2020, 01:14:37 PM »
He's the president and this rally goes against all the guidelines his government has recommended. It's a blatant middle finger to everyone who has died, gotten sick, lost a job, gone months without seeing people, etc. It's despicable.
This is how the protesters made me feel. A big disposable middle finger
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« Reply #5523 on: June 20, 2020, 01:14:59 PM »
Yes.  It’s like a pep rally.  Getting his base fired up. Getting them to believe what they see and here in person versus what they read.

we may not like it- but you have to admit it has been effective for him
What evidence is there to admit that?  
His nickname should be "double down" - and sure, that's solidifying his ever-shrinking base.  Cool.  

Perhaps predictably, I view these rallies the opposite - they're basically public masturbatory sessions.  So often, Trump says something to the media and a flurry of camera clicks denotes he 'done fucked up again' by saying something asinine.  No such issue at a rally!  
And you can't even say it's for a lead-up to the election, he's been doing this rallies since day 1 in office.  They're solely to make him feel good about himself, as if he's not an incompetent, adolescent with power.  He's a 12 year old driving a Ferrari and these rallies act like a friend giving him a phone book to sit on.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5524 on: June 20, 2020, 01:16:08 PM »
This is how the protesters made me feel. A big disposable middle finger
They were protesting something in the moment and important to them.  Trump's rallies may be the latter to his blind followers, but they exist for the sole purpose of giving Trump an erection.
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« Reply #5525 on: June 20, 2020, 01:17:03 PM »
 Some people call the COVID thing a "hoax" (without really defining what they mean).  I guess they think it "no worse than flu", or something.

And these people are going to Trump's rally.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5526 on: June 20, 2020, 01:18:44 PM »
I'm hard pressed to criticize his political instincts relative to what has worked for him in the past.  I thought he was running to increase his name recognition and would drop out "soon".  Maybe this is all an ego trip, I could believe that, but it has been effective at least in 2016.   Will it be effective in 2020?


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« Reply #5527 on: June 20, 2020, 01:20:35 PM »
What evidence is there to admit that? 
His nickname should be "double down" - and sure, that's solidifying his ever-shrinking base.  Cool. 

Perhaps predictably, I view these rallies the opposite - they're basically public masturbatory sessions.  So often, Trump says something to the media and a flurry of camera clicks denotes he 'done fucked up again' by saying something asinine.  No such issue at a rally! 
And you can't even say it's for a lead-up to the election, he's been doing this rallies since day 1 in office.  They're solely to make him feel good about himself, as if he's not an incompetent, adolescent with power.  He's a 12 year old driving a Ferrari and these rallies act like a friend giving him a phone book to sit on.


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« Reply #5528 on: June 20, 2020, 01:21:14 PM »
Only Trump would harp on an election being rigged and then win it.  This is all so embarrassing.  How did we get here?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5529 on: June 20, 2020, 01:21:39 PM »
And these people are going to Trump's rally.
More fake news.  Nobody besides the morons peddling it believe it
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