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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5488 on: June 19, 2020, 10:55:15 PM »
so does the Menard's home improvement place here

it's the only place in the area
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5489 on: June 19, 2020, 11:35:02 PM »
Passed out but not required.
The State Supreme Court ruled today that people could not be required to wear them.
The POTUS effectively discourages their wear.
I have this ridiculous hope that N95 masks would be super effective and all that is required at a football game. 
I guess that foolish notion is out the window. :(

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5490 on: June 20, 2020, 01:11:47 AM »
There's a portion of me that has thought this particular POTUS was going to kill the Republican Party.

I never thought that was going to be a literal statement. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5491 on: June 20, 2020, 06:01:15 AM »
There's a portion of me that has thought this particular POTUS was going to kill the Republican Party.

I never thought that was going to be a literal statement.
It’s an interesting question. Death is bad no matter what- but of those who have Died so far it’s curious to wonder how many of them are of which political affiliation?  A lot of demographics involved. For example most of those who have died so far can be attributed to larger metropolitan areas which tend to be more left. But, The average age of these deaths tends to be much higher which tends to lean right. The current spike in cases, not necessarily deaths, appears to be more towards southern states which tend to lean right. However in Florida the average age of the person with new cases is around 37 years old from what I heard yesterday which tends to be a demographic that leans left.

if you’re talking about the future of the party when you say “kill the republican party “- then I think you’re just way off base. I think current events may be driving conservative thought to be way more entrenched. To understand that you have to have the ability to not pay attention to the people with the microphones which are the media and the elites which tend to lean heavily to the left. Regardless of our dork in the White House, approval of Congress is at an all time low of 24%.

Contrary to the narrative we are being fed 24/7, the virus has no political preference- You can get it if you are one of the “millions” of people protesting racial inequality, or you can get it if you’re one of the people at a political rally.

Desantis said this very well yesterday when asked a related question by a reporter. He basically said that it’s not as political as you might think with respect to wearing masks and venturing out. He pointed out that people have been watching their televisions and for weeks now seeing thousands and thousands of protesters in small tight spaces often holding hands or arm in arm, often yelling and screaming, with no reference to The risk of spreading the virus whatsoever. He said that gives them a false sense of “hey maybe were in the next phase and we can go ahead”.  so now when they hear those same voices which were previously silent regarding thousands and thousands and thousands of protesters across the country, getting clearly worked up over a 20,000 person event, they’re just not paying attention because there is a credibility problem there.

I truly believe there’s something to what he said and that is not a political statement at all.
« Last Edit: June 20, 2020, 06:11:21 AM by Honestbuckeye »
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5494 on: June 20, 2020, 08:19:27 AM »
I do not see how this is likely to work, CFB, under anything remotely resembling normalcy.  Some of those infected may have longer term impacts to their breathing which could render them unable to play for years, is ever.  Nobody who tests positive on Friday will play on Saturday, staff included.  Imagine some HC gets sick, perhaps very sick.  What are the odds that happens?  Imagine Nick Saban catches it and is hospitalized?

How can this work?

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5495 on: June 20, 2020, 09:47:20 AM »
this is why Nick has an assistant coach

coaches get sick, they get cancer, they have heart issues

if the players and coaches are not involved with football activities including games are they safer?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5496 on: June 20, 2020, 09:59:38 AM »
It's not a matter of player safety in this instance.  It's a matter of teams having a near full retinue in order to compete.

The chance that a head coach gets COVID and has to sit out 2-3 weeks is nearly 100%.  The chance that some teams will experience 20-30 players lost is nearly 100%.  Anyone who tests positive will NOT be able to play for 3 weeks or more.

Players will likely bring it in from campus life, their GFs, etc.  You can't isolate them as you could the pros.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5497 on: June 20, 2020, 10:09:15 AM »
if you’re talking about the future of the party when you say “kill the republican party “- then I think you’re just way off base. 
I hope it came across that I was making a joke... 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5498 on: June 20, 2020, 10:12:29 AM »
For more than two months in Iowa, the most critical COVID-19 figures — deaths and hospitalizations — have been steadily getting lower, with little interruption.

As of Friday afternoon, according to state public health data compiled by the Des Moines Bureau:

• The seven-day average of new deaths (5.4) was at its lowest since April 25. That was nine weeks ago, and just a month after the first virus-related death was recorded in Iowa. That figured peaked on May 25 at 15.0, and has been falling steadily in the three-plus weeks since.

• The seven-day average of Iowans hospitalized by the virus (193.4) was at its lowest since April 21. That figured peaked on May 11 at 407.7, and has been falling steadily in the five-plus weeks since.

• And the seven-day average of Iowans recently admitted to the hospital for virus-related symptoms (19.4) was as low as it had been since April 17, which was just one week into the state publishing that data. That figure peaked on May 5 at 41.1, and has been falling steadily in the six-plus weeks since.


How does Iowa compare nationally? Its 22 deaths per 100,000 residents is 20th in the nation, according to multiple sites that track the data nationally.

Positive case numbers also, generally, have been trending downward statewide. Certain areas have seen spikes — Buena Vista and Story counties are two recent examples, due in part to outbreaks at a meat packing plant in the former and possibly on the Iowa State University campus in the latter. But while it has been a little more sporadic along the way, the statewide, seven-day average of new cases has been falling steadily since peaking at 547.9 on May 4.


While black and Latino Iowans have been burdened with an outsized share of coronavirus cases, the share of virus-related deaths have been more in line with their populations.

Among Iowa’s population, 6% are Latino and 4% are black. And yet a whopping 27% of cases have been confirmed in the state’s Latino population, and 10% among black Iowans. Those numbers, in part, are because those populations are more likely to work hourly wage, at-risk jobs, like those in meat-packing plants, in nursing homes, and at grocery stores and other essential businesses.

However, among Iowans who have died of virus-related causes, 7% have been Latino and 5% have been black.


As of Friday, 7 of 10 Iowans who died of virus-related causes had pre-existing conditions, according to state public health data, while only 6% of Iowans who died of virus-related causes were confirmed to have no previous conditions.

For the remaining 24%, it had not yet been determined whether the individual had a previous condition.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5499 on: June 20, 2020, 10:15:03 AM »
https://www.modernhealthcare.com/technology/accuracy-covid-19-tests-still-largely-unknown

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/06/how-accurate-are-covid-19-tests.html

Imagine the test is 95% correct in not giving false positives.  On a college football team, that would mean 4 or 5 false positives as a result.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5500 on: June 20, 2020, 10:36:01 AM »
There's a portion of me that has thought this particular POTUS was going to kill the Republican Party.

I never thought that was going to be a literal statement.
It's tough to view this rally as anything but a big FU to everyone who has sacrificed over the past few months

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5501 on: June 20, 2020, 10:40:06 AM »
https://www.modernhealthcare.com/technology/accuracy-covid-19-tests-still-largely-unknown

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/06/how-accurate-are-covid-19-tests.html

Imagine the test is 95% correct in not giving false positives.  On a college football team, that would mean 4 or 5 false positives as a result.

I think false positives for these tests are a lot smaller percentage problem than false negatives. I.e. there are a number of issues that might cause someone with COVID to get a negative result, but if you get a positive result, you pretty much have COVID. 

I've been trying to find specificity numbers via the googles, and finding all sorts of stories about the false negative problems, but can't really get a good read on false positives. I don't think that's a big issue.   

 

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