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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5264 on: June 13, 2020, 05:48:59 PM »
I disagree with the concept that we can't develop an effective vaccine, and fairly quickly.  Vaccine developed for MERS and SARS were fairly advanced when it became obvious one was just not needed.  There is evidence people are developing antibodies.  We don't know how long they will last, or of course whether the virus may mutate.

I'm reasonably optimistic about a vaccine, perhaps by first of the year.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5265 on: June 13, 2020, 06:05:24 PM »
theres even some talk about rushing the unproven vaccine into production so if this final trial works out they would be able to distribute it right away

that would mean possibly having a vaccine by November

course if the final trial is negative then they will have spent a shit load of money for nothing

Id be willing to bet the Government might underwrite such a venture
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5266 on: June 13, 2020, 06:23:49 PM »
I love the optimism, but you can't rush this type of thing.  Vaccines are ongoing and are already developed as quickly as possible.

it's not a case of scientists lounging around, dragging their feet most of the time, BUT NOW they're buckling down and trying harder.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5267 on: June 13, 2020, 10:10:33 PM »
There is some risk obviously that a vaccine is rushed beyond prudence.  None of us can judge whether that is the case.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5268 on: June 15, 2020, 02:21:28 AM »
Someone I knew very well just died of Covid.  She was around my age, but not very healthy. A receptionist at the school I taught at on the Rez.  She was a great lady. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5269 on: June 15, 2020, 07:03:29 AM »
Someone I knew very well just died of Covid.  She was around my age, but not very healthy. A receptionist at the school I taught at on the Rez.  She was a great lady. 
That stinks OFA.  Sorry man.😔
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5270 on: June 15, 2020, 07:58:03 AM »
Very sorry to hear that OAM, condolences.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5271 on: June 15, 2020, 08:16:10 AM »
Reported cases are up, pretty clearly, aside from states that were hit hardest earliest.  Unfortunately, I think we'll have more premature deaths coming, some among younger folks.  If anyone wants to share more information about someone who passed, it's a good place to do so.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5272 on: June 15, 2020, 12:23:21 PM »
I'm just waiting for the Sun City/El Mirage area to explode - it's in NW Phoenix and basically a retirement community full of retirement communities. 

The zip codes adjacent to mine are still really high, in numbers of cases.  
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5273 on: June 15, 2020, 12:26:43 PM »
Were I retired (oh, wait), I would be VERY careful about personal contacts of any kind.

I just jogged three miles so I'm feeling invulnerable, bring it on!  Well, no, I'll pass.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5274 on: June 15, 2020, 12:40:06 PM »
Were I retired (oh, wait), I would be VERY careful about personal contacts of any kind.

I just jogged three miles so I'm feeling invulnerable, bring it on!  Well, no, I'll pass.
My folks have done a good job staying distanced so far.  My dad turns 80 this year, my mom is getting close, they've both had various health issues over the years.

But I think they're also reaching a point where they don't want to stay isolated and alone much longer.  We visit regularly and do socially-distanced get-togethers outside, and they enjoy that, but they also know that they're likely nearing the end of their days, and they don't want to spend any large percentage of their remaining years, isolated.

My in-laws who are 83 and 80, are even further beyond that, and are driving to a casino in Louisiana, as we speak.

I hope that none of them end up catching it and suffering, but I also respect their rights to make their own decisions.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5275 on: June 15, 2020, 12:40:44 PM »
Someone I knew very well just died of Covid.  She was around my age, but not very healthy. A receptionist at the school I taught at on the Rez.  She was a great lady. 
Sorry to hear this.

COVID-19 got into one of the nursing homes in our rural county last week. Ten reported cases divided equally between staff and residents.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5276 on: June 15, 2020, 12:53:59 PM »
I presume the elderly are no more likely to contract the disease, just more likely to suffer more serious consequences.

Georgia has moved from about 600 new cases per day to over 800 now, but hospitalizations have only edged higher, 804 to 827. 

That might be expected if the new cases are mostly younger people, and the protesters were nearly all younger folks.  The timing is about right.

We were having brunch Sunday at the place we like dining outside when a protest passed by, very well controlled and organized, probably 250 people, staying in two lanes of the four lane main drag here, so they only blocked southbound traffic.  Roughly 60% were white.  They were all young that I noticed.

A police car was in front and two were in back, mostly for traffic control, they hit the lights at intersections.  That was Peachtree Street.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5277 on: June 15, 2020, 01:26:07 PM »
Nationally, deaths are still edging down. 

As mentioned, there are weekly patterns that are consistent. Yesterday was down about 10% from the previous Sunday. Since early April, every Sunday has been sequentially down except one week. Monday is also typically low, so if today is down sequentially from last Monday, we're continuing the trend. 

Cases continue to rise, but even in states with sharp case increases (CA/TX/FL), deaths are flat so far. So I don't worry about the case numbers as much as the hospitalization/death numbers.

 

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