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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5250 on: June 12, 2020, 02:10:25 PM »
Survivors of COVID-19 are donating their blood plasma in droves in hopes it helps other patients recover from the coronavirus. And while the jury’s still out, now scientists are testing if the donations might also prevent infection in the first place.

Thousands of coronavirus patients in hospitals around the world have been treated with so-called convalescent plasma — including more than 20,000 in the U.S. — with little solid evidence so far that it makes a difference. One recent study from China was unclear while another from New York offered a hint of benefit.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5251 on: June 12, 2020, 05:17:07 PM »
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« Reply #5252 on: June 12, 2020, 05:29:33 PM »
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5253 on: June 12, 2020, 06:34:04 PM »
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5254 on: June 13, 2020, 09:42:19 AM »
Florida is ticking up for sure, on cases. So are the number of tests. Deaths are way down, and keep trending down.

Positive test rate is at 5.3 now, up from 4.8 a couple of weeks ago.

I'm in Illinois now. I guess it's time to start following that again, and Wisconsin. 

Wisconsin is fully open and has been since the state Supreme Court declared the lockdown unconstitutional (because it is). No major trends, except the positive tests continue to trend down.

44 percent of Wisconsin's cases are between the ages of 10 and 39. Gee, I wonder why.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5255 on: June 13, 2020, 10:26:21 AM »
We went back to the wine bar yesterday. Masks were damn near nonexistent. 

Our mask requirement was rescinded by the new county Chief Health Officer. Of course, the only reason there is a new CHO is that the previous one who implemented the requirement resigned after getting protesters outside her house--and at least one death threat. 

All this as daily case rates in Orange County continue to rise, and hospitalizations continue to rise. So this rescinding of the mask requirement is no victory lap.

I don't blame reopening for the cases going up, here in OC... I believe that with proper precautions, reopening is appropriate and can be done safely. I blame inconsiderate jerks--county's full of 'em. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5256 on: June 13, 2020, 10:41:25 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on June 13, 2020, 09:42:19 AM
Florida is ticking up for sure, on cases. So are the number of tests. Deaths are way down, and keep trending down.

Positive test rate is at 5.3 now, up from 4.8 a couple of weeks ago.

I'm in Illinois now. I guess it's time to start following that again, and Wisconsin.

Wisconsin is fully open and has been since the state Supreme Court declared the lockdown unconstitutional (because it is). No major trends, except the positive tests continue to trend down.

44 percent of Wisconsin's cases are between the ages of 10 and 39. Gee, I wonder why.
Hospitalizations down in Florida
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5257 on: June 13, 2020, 10:50:19 AM »
Quote from: Honestbuckeye on June 13, 2020, 10:41:25 AM
Hospitalizations down in Florida
I didn't click on that page. Thanks.

With 22K beds, FL should be just fine.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5258 on: June 13, 2020, 11:17:20 AM »
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5259 on: June 13, 2020, 11:20:09 AM »
I don't see how this can "go away" short of an intensely restricted island or a useful widely used vaccine, or herd immunity.
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« Reply #5260 on: June 13, 2020, 11:34:27 AM »
Just scheduled the serology test.
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« Reply #5261 on: June 13, 2020, 05:17:02 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on June 13, 2020, 11:20:09 AM
I don't see how this can "go away" short of an intensely restricted island or a useful widely used vaccine, or herd immunity.

Agreed, it's not going away.  And since we've never developed an effective vaccine for any other coronavirus in the history of our planet, I'm inclined to believe we won't develop one for this thing, either.  I'm certainly hopeful that we will, and would be very happily surprised, but we can't make ANY plan or policy that begins with "once we have a vaccine."  That's hopecasting, not forecasting.

We're going to have to learn to live with this thing among us.  It's here to stay, and all public and health policy decisions and plans need to begin with that as the core idea.

Then we have to figure out what to do next.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5262 on: June 13, 2020, 05:41:49 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on June 13, 2020, 05:17:02 PM
Agreed, it's not going away.  And since we've never developed an effective vaccine for any other coronavirus in the history of our planet, I'm inclined to believe we won't develop one for this thing, either.  I'm certainly hopeful that we will, and would be very happily surprised, but we can't make ANY plan or policy that begins with "once we have a vaccine."  That's hopecasting, not forecasting.

We're going to have to learn to live with this thing among us.  It's here to stay, and all public and health policy decisions and plans need to begin with that as the core idea.

Then we have to figure out what to do next.
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I posted this yesterday but got no comments on it so Im gonna post it again

https://techcrunch.com/2020/06/11/moderna-set-to-start-final-stage-trial-of-its-coronavirus-vaccine-by-july/
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5263 on: June 13, 2020, 05:44:41 PM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on June 13, 2020, 05:41:49 PM
You never know that fat lady might be ready to sing

I posted this yesterday but got no comments on it so Im gonna post it again

https://techcrunch.com/2020/06/11/moderna-set-to-start-final-stage-trial-of-its-coronavirus-vaccine-by-july/

I saw it.  Like I said, I don't expect ever to have an effective vaccine.  It would be a happy surprise if we did.

But no public policy decisions can be made on the hope that an effective vaccine will be available in 6 months, 12 months, 18 months, or 18 years. That's not planning, that's dreaming.  Realistic policies based on realistic expectations are where we start-- right now.

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