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Topic: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas

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longhorn320

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5124 on: June 09, 2020, 09:25:03 AM »
We're not doing that yet. A lot of people are still uncomfortable being in an office. Plus, we are still waiting on a contract for upgraded cleaning/sanitizing companies. I think a lot of people are waiting for that. Good business to be in, right now.
I hear you 

my sons building where his office is was cleaned and sanitized several times prior to their return to work

also the practice safe distancing and wear masks in elevators 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5125 on: June 09, 2020, 09:26:53 AM »
What media are you consuming?

For some reason, I see a consistent tactic where you claim "the media" is not discussing something, which I've seen brought up many times in "the media"...
Right now it's more popular to talk about the states that opened up having a spike, rather than talk about the effects of the protests.

Both ideas are out there, however, but as I said, one is more popular than the other. I do a check of 11 websites every morning.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5126 on: June 09, 2020, 09:29:01 AM »
What media are you consuming?

For some reason, I see a consistent tactic where you claim "the media" is not discussing something, which I've seen brought up many times in "the media"...
I look at all stations and never see it mentioned

but hey if Im wrong then I'll look again today 

so far if your protesting then that cant affect the spread of the virus seems to be the theme

please aim me toward and network which sights protesting as the possible reason for an up tick in positive cases

and I'll gladly admit I was wrong
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5127 on: June 09, 2020, 09:41:51 AM »
I look at all stations and never see it mentioned

but hey if Im wrong then I'll look again today

so far if your protesting then that cant affect the spread of the virus seems to be the theme

please aim me toward and network which sights protesting as the possible reason for an up tick in positive cases

and I'll gladly admit I was wrong

I don't "watch" the news, but here's a smattering:


And that was from the first page of google results, without relying on any particularly sketchy sources.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5128 on: June 09, 2020, 10:03:49 AM »
I don't "watch" the news, but here's a smattering:


And that was from the first page of google results, without relying on any particularly sketchy sources.


all of these are examples of raising the possibility of the protests increase virus spread but none of them reflect the recent spike being casued by protesting

instead the current spike is always tied to the "early" opening up of the state
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5129 on: June 09, 2020, 10:23:10 AM »
all of these are examples of raising the possibility of the protests increase virus spread but none of them reflect the recent spike being casued by protesting

instead the current spike is always tied to the "early" opening up of the state
The 11Alive piece lays out quite clearly the fact that there is a "lag time" in the data due both to the incubation period of the virus and that generally it takes several days to get results back.

If the protests were leading to a spike, it wouldn't likely happen until this week and next week. Prior to that, while it might be causing another spike, the numbers will be too small to notice against the normal infection rate.

Edit: Oh, and you're moving the goalposts here. Your original complaint was that the media was saying that the protests can't contribute to spreading the virus, which I believe I showed that mainstream media sources were not merely speculating, but CBS News "Face the Nation" brought on a former FDA official who outright said it WOULD spread the virus. Now you're saying that you were incorrect regarding the media reporting, but other unnamed "media" are saying that existing spikes are due to reopening too early. How about you identify those media sources... I showed you mine ;-) 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5130 on: June 09, 2020, 10:32:17 AM »
It's been two weeks. It started in Minneapolis one day after the absurd murder. We'd be seeing it now.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5131 on: June 09, 2020, 10:45:24 AM »
It's been two weeks. It started in Minneapolis one day after the absurd murder. We'd be seeing it now.
maybe we are but the only thing you hear or read about when talking about a states spike is the fact that they opened early in kind of a I told ya so rant

but I'll be patient and wait another week but if there is still a spike in a week lets just see if theres any mention that the protests might be a cause

that should be interesting
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5132 on: June 09, 2020, 10:47:01 AM »
It's been two weeks. It started in Minneapolis one day after the absurd murder. We'd be seeing it now.
So far Minnesota isn't showing a spike. As always, daily numbers are a crapshoot, but the trend remains downward.

https://www.minnpost.com/health/2020/03/tracking-the-minnesota-covid-19-numbers/

So I guess the media is right... You can't spread it at a protest. :57:

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5133 on: June 09, 2020, 10:48:55 AM »
The 11Alive piece lays out quite clearly the fact that there is a "lag time" in the data due both to the incubation period of the virus and that generally it takes several days to get results back.

If the protests were leading to a spike, it wouldn't likely happen until this week and next week. Prior to that, while it might be causing another spike, the numbers will be too small to notice against the normal infection rate.

Edit: Oh, and you're moving the goalposts here. Your original complaint was that the media was saying that the protests can't contribute to spreading the virus, which I believe I showed that mainstream media sources were not merely speculating, but CBS News "Face the Nation" brought on a former FDA official who outright said it WOULD spread the virus. Now you're saying that you were incorrect regarding the media reporting, but other unnamed "media" are saying that existing spikes are due to reopening too early. How about you identify those media sources... I showed you mine ;-)
I never meant to say the media never said the protests might cause more cases in the future

I was talking about the present

If a state opened up early thats the cause with no consideration to the protests but again if its too early then lets wait a week and see
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5134 on: June 09, 2020, 10:49:54 AM »
So far Minnesota isn't showing a spike. As always, daily numbers are a crapshoot, but the trend remains downward.

https://www.minnpost.com/health/2020/03/tracking-the-minnesota-covid-19-numbers/

So I guess the media is right... You can't spread it at a protest. :57:
right neither is Georgia but NY Texas and California is
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5135 on: June 09, 2020, 10:51:26 AM »
Im not hoping for spikes in fact I want football again so if protesting wont cause spikes great maybe football wont either
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5136 on: June 09, 2020, 10:52:11 AM »
it's asinine to think that the protests aren't having an effect on the spike.
it's equally asinine to think states opening up also isn't having an effect.

it also seems most people have forgotten what the quarantine's purpose is/was. it never was to rid us of the virus, only to slow the spread, "flatten the curve". it was always expected a huge number of people will get it, we just didn't need them all to get it at once. whether or not we've flattened it enough to open up, i don't have a clue. but anyone thinking we should stay bunkerred down until it passes completely, has lost it. at some point, we have to move on with life. me and my wife/family are trying to navigate that with wisdom, which is insanely hard.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #5137 on: June 09, 2020, 10:58:13 AM »
So far Minnesota isn't showing a spike. As always, daily numbers are a crapshoot, but the trend remains downward.

https://www.minnpost.com/health/2020/03/tracking-the-minnesota-covid-19-numbers/

So I guess the media is right... You can't spread it at a protest. :57:
I'm really starting to believe that far more people have had this thing than I thought earlier.

I know I travelled extensively from Thanksgiving through March 1, which was my last time on a plane. I also know that nobody was wearing masks then, and I know the airports and airplanes were packed.

I know that until the shutdown in Illinois happened, millions of people used public transportation, daily. Offices were open. People were in close contact.

Again, nobody was wearing masks, as we were told by the CDC that we didn't need to.
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