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Big Beef Tacosupreme

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4662 on: June 02, 2020, 02:57:19 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on June 02, 2020, 02:41:14 PM
Yes, by a real company partnering with a real hospital, in Los Angeles.

What's your point?
USA Today Fact check

I just wanted a better source, that's all.  There's one above.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4663 on: June 02, 2020, 02:58:29 PM »
You don't think I would check on something that important before posting it?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4664 on: June 02, 2020, 03:07:00 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on June 02, 2020, 02:52:46 PM
I don't want political discussion here. Again, we can talk policy (we tried in a thread) but naming politicians to me incites people and sends a thread tumbling.

We need ideas, and we need them fast. If that company and hospital researching the UV light to fight this virus within someone's lungs can actually work, I would call it a miracle. It just so happens that it was brought up in a presser a couple of months ago. If it works, who cares??
If it works, great.  As far as I can tell they are years away from that happening.  They've demonstrated that highly controlled UV-A rays can kill viruses and bacteria while keeping cells alive.  They've done that in a petri dish, apparently.

They essentially want to stick diodes through the nasal cavity and throat and use this technology from the inside out.  But the lungs are very delicate and viruses and bacteria hang out in extremely tiny areas.  Maybe they plan on trying to eradicate the 80% of the virus they can reach, and let the body deal with the last 20%?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4665 on: June 02, 2020, 03:07:46 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on June 02, 2020, 02:58:29 PM
You don't think I would check on something that important before posting it?
Hey, you voted Jonathan Taylor over Saquon Barkley as best back in the B1G.  No way you checked on that.  :)
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4666 on: June 02, 2020, 03:15:39 PM »
Either one would be a fine back up  for Zeke
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4667 on: June 02, 2020, 03:17:22 PM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on June 02, 2020, 03:15:39 PM
Either one would be a fine back up  for Zeke
Who?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4668 on: June 02, 2020, 03:17:31 PM »
Quote from: Big Beef Tacosupreme on June 02, 2020, 03:07:46 PM
Hey, you voted Jonathan Taylor over Saquon Barkley as best back in the B1G.  No way you checked on that.  :)
Data:


JT (as a true freshman) had way more yards (1977 > 1271), a better YPC (6.6>5.9) and almost twice as many touchdowns (13 > 7).

It was not a hard choice.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4669 on: June 02, 2020, 03:22:07 PM »
There are companies that sell UV lights to sanitize say truck cabs, car cabs, trains, places like that.  You can't be present when the lights come on, they are intense.  That uses a lot of power, but it works, from what I've read.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4670 on: June 02, 2020, 03:23:14 PM »
Quote from: Big Beef Tacosupreme on June 02, 2020, 03:17:22 PM
Who?
I knew he ran over PSU didn't know he plowed into you when you were vending 😜
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4671 on: June 02, 2020, 03:24:53 PM »
Quote from: Big Beef Tacosupreme on June 02, 2020, 02:21:51 PM
UV light is quite effective. 

Alcohol is quite effective.

High Humidity looks to be not great for the survival of the virus on hard surfaces.

High temperatures being 56C or higher... not summer temps.

Scholarly Article
There's a difference between the temperature that completely kills a virus, and temperatures at which a virus is inhibited in its spread.

For example, the flu virus isn't killed by heat until 167 degreesF. 


https://www.cdc.gov/flu/resource-center/images/multi-language-pdfs/contamination_cleaning_english_508.pdf

However, studies have shown that it trasmits much less effectively in high heat and humidity, than it does in cooler temperatures with lower humidity.  The study cited in this article below indicates that the flu virus transmits easily at 41 degreesF and 35% humidity, but almost zero transmission occurs at 68 degreesF and 80% humidity.

http://sitn.hms.harvard.edu/flash/2014/the-reason-for-the-season-why-flu-strikes-in-winter/


Now obviously the novel coronavirus isn't the flu virus and it has different properties and behaviors, but the point here is that the high temperature at which a virus is killed, is not necessarily the same as a high temperature at which a virus no longer transmits effectively.

Clearly more study is warranted, and I'm assuming such study is likely underway.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4672 on: June 02, 2020, 03:27:09 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on June 02, 2020, 03:22:07 PM
There are companies that sell UV lights to sanitize say truck cabs, car cabs, trains, places like that.  You can't be present when the lights come on, they are intense.  That uses a lot of power, but it works, from what I've read.


My Sonicaire toothbrush includes a UV light to disinfect the brush head. Maybe I should swallow it and see how that works? :)
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4673 on: June 02, 2020, 03:28:31 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on June 02, 2020, 02:55:25 PM
Who's not doing testing?  I was tested yesterday for both the active virus and the antibodies, within 3 hours of talking to my primary care physician.


Your 1-person anecdote isn't helpful.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4674 on: June 02, 2020, 03:29:09 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on June 02, 2020, 03:27:09 PM
My Sonicaire toothbrush includes a UV light to disinfect the brush head. Maybe I should swallow it and see how that works? :)

Is that worth the cost?  I've always had a $3 toothbrush and it just seems nuts to pay $60.  Do you recommend it?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4675 on: June 02, 2020, 03:30:37 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on June 02, 2020, 03:28:31 PM
Your 1-person anecdote isn't helpful.
Sure it is.

If you have evidence of cases to refute my assertion that widespread testing is available, and that anyone that needs a test can get one, then let's see it.

They're not going to test people just because someone wants one.  Nor do I think they should.  If you're exhibiting symptoms, or if you have come into direct contact with a positive test, then you can get tested.

That is my assertion.  Refute it, if you can. *shrug*
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