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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4536 on: May 30, 2020, 08:52:30 AM »
I interact fairly often with the Atlanta PD, they have officers around construction sites.  They often are sitting in a chair reading something, it looks like quiet duty, but I suppose they are needed to manage traffic at times.  We speak to them, they speak back, often we ask if we can walk this way and they either say "Not now, maybe go this way" or they escort us through a construction area, recently folks were overhead dealing with utility lines (they have to be put underground at any new site).

There have been police in the park of late due to the COVID thing, on bikes or on horses or in golf carts or on foot, they have always been polite and friendly.  At times I ask if things are going OK and they will respond.  Of course, I'm white, often with the wife, and don't look remotely dangerous, but I have had zero negative interactions, thankfully.  I have not seen any either.

Maybe they behave differently in other situations.  

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4537 on: May 30, 2020, 10:05:24 AM »
In my opinion, Fauci and Birx have provided useful information and perspective all along the way, some of which was clearly distorted or misinterpreted by others.

We have gone to knowing nearly nothing about COVID to having a few things starting to be nailed down in two months or so.  The recent good news is that we do appear to develop antibodies to the virus and that can be artificially induced, no idea how long it lasts.

I think the fear about the virus lingering on surfaces for days or weeks was misplaced by understandable.  Most transmission appears to be direct contact or with a sneeze/cough.  A mask can help with the latter items if the infected person is wearing one, or maintains distance.

These various protests/riots may provide a new source for spread.

We don't have this licked, but it is not as bad as it could have been and states that have reopened have not been overwhelmed by any means.  New cases in GA are steady.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4538 on: May 30, 2020, 10:14:43 AM »
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/05/29/865498498/cdc-director-claims-new-analysis-exonerates-agency-on-testing-delay?utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=nprblogscoronavirusliveupdates
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/05/29/865498498/cdc-director-claims-new-analysis-exonerates-agency-on-testing-delay?utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=nprblogscoronavirusliveupdates


CDC head claims earlier testing would not have helped, which perhaps is not a shock (that they would claim it).  They still botched the test.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4539 on: May 30, 2020, 10:28:46 AM »
I got the living shit beat out of me by the police once before, and I'm white as snow. And for no reason to be quite honest with you. Punched me in the face, back, head, tased me, beat me with the sticks, and after they had me on the ground cuffed and motionless they still proceeded to beat the living shit out of me with their sticks and fists.

There's a police brutality problem in this country, for sure. That is without question. It's massive and it's systemic. It's not just a few bad apples. It's the entire police culture that is rotten to the core. The police are over-militarized, trained poorly, and vetted poorly. Just about any dumb asshole can become a police officer if they really want to. It's not that hard. Believe me, I know more than a couple of them. And the culture inside the police department where they lie and cover for each other in order protect the shield and protect their "brothers" breeds bad police officers that abuse their powers. Not everyone that becomes a police officer is cut out to actually be a police officer. They are suppose to serve and protect the public. Unfortunately in far too many cases they protect themselves first and forget the serve the public part. Shoot first, ask questions later. That's not what the job is meant to be. It's a public service. A noble one at that. And it's a dangerous, unforgiving, thankless job. But it's a job that someone chooses. Nobody makes you become a police officer. There are risks associated with the job, and if you can't properly deal with those risks then you shouldn't be a police officer. It's way too militarized, way too right wing, and way too protected and held unaccountable.

And there are way too many former military service members that come home suffering from PTSD and just go right into the police force and take out their issues out on the public instead of not working and being in hardcore therapy for years like most of them need to be.

My view is there is a huge police problem in this country- and it disproportionately affects black people. There are more white people total beaten and killed by police officers every single year in this country, but there are a lot more white people in this country. In terms of % of population, blacks are disproportionately abused by police. But they use excessive force and abuse their powers and beat the snot out of white people and shoot and kill white people too. I experienced it first hand.

The US is an over-militarized, over-policed, penal colony. No other country in the entire freaking world has as many people in prisons and jails or as high of an incarceration rate. And blacks are disproportionately affected by a completely ass backwards screwed up system.
I was also beaten up by a cop. 
I also did nothing wrong. He thought I had messed with his girl. Spoiler:  I didn’t.  I honestly think I’d be dead except for my friends happened to be in the car

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4540 on: May 30, 2020, 01:23:10 PM »
Texas numbers are becoming more and more of an issue.  They are adding as many cases as New York now.

Wisconsin & North Carolina also making big jumps this week.

California close to getting on the radar as well.

CT, NY, and NJ have all exceeded the 1 in 1000 people death rate. (of total population, not infected).  MA will likely join them in the next few days.

Georgia numbers continue to look good, despite being "open."  Perhaps maybe a model to follow here.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4541 on: May 30, 2020, 01:37:30 PM »
There hasn't been much of a model to follow here that is notably different from anywhere else.  The bars and clubs were just allowed to reopen, which concerns me, the Nook here is open today, and crowded, though the tables are separated.

Were I in charge, I would have kept some limits on a few counties that were hit hard for another couple of weeks.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4542 on: May 30, 2020, 05:14:37 PM »
No that was the same assholes destroying Mn/STPL and helping themselves to what ever they could.As they were marching for justice and social change of course
Those folks in Minnesota sure are racking up the frequent flier miles, then.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4543 on: May 30, 2020, 05:17:55 PM »
Those folks in Minnesota sure are racking up the frequent flier miles, then.
It's a Delta hub.  Surprisingly cheap city to fly into.

But I think at the time we are calling people fighting against racial injustice monkeys, might be time for another lock?

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4544 on: May 31, 2020, 09:51:30 PM »
we need to bring back this thread

its been dead long enough
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4545 on: May 31, 2020, 09:56:04 PM »
people are over the virus

we flattened the curve - winner!
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4546 on: May 31, 2020, 10:00:17 PM »
people are over the virus

we flattened the curve - winner!
right now we moved on to pillaging

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4547 on: May 31, 2020, 10:42:16 PM »
AZ had it's most new cases to date.  Gee, I wonder why?!?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4548 on: May 31, 2020, 10:49:01 PM »
people are over the virus

we flattened the curve - winner!
Eh, we just half assed it for as long as was mildly bearable.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4549 on: May 31, 2020, 11:12:51 PM »
Eh, we just half assed it for as long as was mildly bearable.

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