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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4522 on: May 29, 2020, 08:03:44 PM »
I don't know who's data to trust

I'd need to know the agenda of the data sourse
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4523 on: May 29, 2020, 08:11:15 PM »
I don't trust their data, either.

Got lots of other data to pick from though.
I mean as hackers they're actually quite good at it - in a bad way
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4524 on: May 29, 2020, 09:03:03 PM »
People don't like being told what to do. People don't like being lied to. People don't like being told something one day, and then something completely different days later. People like being free. I think those are pretty simple truths.


"People don't like being told what to do." - Correct, and they likely wouldn't be even if there was something more serious 

"People don't like being lied to." - This seems debatable. People often seem to like being lied to. Depends who is lying of course.

"People don't like being told something one day, and then something completely different days later." - They don't. But the world changes often. And if they don't like being told different things sometimes, they definitely like being lied to. 

"People like being free." - To a degree yes. They really like feeling like they're free, which is different from feeling free at points. 

Most of them seem like kinda complex truths, actually. And all of them point me to the fact that if there were something more deadly, some folks would still hold out skepticism for a good long while. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4525 on: May 29, 2020, 09:52:20 PM »
Bernie's as big a career politician as there is.  His only full-time jobs ever have been holding elected office.
True. But he was always very publicly against the Democratic establishment. He was always voting NO on the things that matter, or trying to push legislation that was good but never had the support behind it from other politicians to get pushed through, and he was always bringing very important issues to light.

He was basically seen as a radical that was principled and authentic, but had very little power to do anything to make major change. The moment he actually built a movement and got some power he wind up folding like a cheap suite. He had zero fight in him to go on the offensive with Hillary, the DNC, or Biden. Folded like a cheap suite and fell right in line for a seat in their club.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4526 on: May 29, 2020, 10:38:52 PM »
Thank God Faucci aint the President

if he was we'd be closed for the next 3 years

Have you noticed that weather vane Faucci tends to change his view to agree with whats

working at the time

dont wear a mask oh wait a minute you need to wear a mask

there will more then likely be a 2nd wave oh wait a minute there every chance there wont be a 2nd wave

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4527 on: May 29, 2020, 11:08:48 PM »
Thank God Faucci aint the President

if he was we'd be closed for the next 3 years

Have you noticed that weather vane Faucci tends to change his view to agree with whats

working at the time

dont wear a mask oh wait a minute you need to wear a mask

there will more then likely be a 2nd wave oh wait a minute there every chance there wont be a 2nd wave


To be fair, this is a rapidly changing situation with a new virus which we are still learning about. 

Being able to change your mind with new information is not a weakness. It’s a badge of honor. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4528 on: May 29, 2020, 11:11:51 PM »
To be fair, this is a rapidly changing situation with a new virus which we are still learning about.

Being able to change your mind with new information is not a weakness. It’s a badge of honor.
For some, yes
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4529 on: May 29, 2020, 11:47:35 PM »
To be fair, this is a rapidly changing situation with a new virus which we are still learning about.

Being able to change your mind with new information is not a weakness. It’s a badge of honor.
well then Faucci is very highly decorated
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4530 on: May 30, 2020, 12:09:26 AM »
To be fair, this is a rapidly changing situation with a new virus which we are still learning about.

Being able to change your mind with new information is not a weakness. It’s a badge of honor.
It's not a badge of honor, it's the only prudent thing to do.
People who bitch about informed people changing their minds are lazy assholes.  Dull.  Limited.  
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4531 on: May 30, 2020, 12:16:04 AM »
have to put his here only because have to laugh in order not to cry in these crazy ass times...


https://twitter.com/NFL_Memes/status/1266136132628209664?s=20

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4532 on: May 30, 2020, 01:08:15 AM »
Again, tonight, watching WCCO-TV video. Arsonists are burning down a barbershop, and they are interviewing the owner of the barbershop, and he says he is "disappointed." A master of understatement has spoken. The story changed away from George Floyd. 

I am an attorney in small town Iowa. We have had rogue cops in small town Iowa, too. They are actually in the minority. They are always here, and in small town Iowa there are not  many blacks to suppress. But the rogues here will suppress whom they can, while risking their careers by rogue activity. 

One day one of them will do something that actually injures someone permanently. I recall several years ago where one of the rogues who reveled in not being a peace officer but escalating every situation he could, fractured someone's cervical spine during an arrest. Fortunately it was not serious enough to sever the spinal cord. It was serious enough to draw a personal injury claim and resultant termination of his employment. 

All the local attorneys knew he was rogue, but without a serious injury we couldn't do a thing about him because the immunities given to law enforcement officers are such that as an attorney you would go broke pursuing someone on a something less that an injury that is permanently disabling. The likelihood of achieving justice is so limited on a lesser personal injury claim against a rogue officer because the rules make the likelihood of success almost nonexistent, despite extremely rogue conduct.

It is hard to say whether the George Floyd matter is racial, a personal vendetta, or both (the officer and G. Floyd were co-workers at one time). Whatever it is . . . it was outrageous.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4533 on: May 30, 2020, 01:52:18 AM »
It is hard to say whether the George Floyd matter is racial, a personal vendetta, or both (the officer and G. Floyd were co-workers at one time). Whatever it is . . . it was outrageous.
I got the living shit beat out of me by the police once before, and I'm white as snow. And for no reason to be quite honest with you. Punched me in the face, back, head, tased me, beat me with the sticks, and after they had me on the ground cuffed and motionless they still proceeded to beat the living shit out of me with their sticks and fists.

There's a police brutality problem in this country, for sure. That is without question. It's massive and it's systemic. It's not just a few bad apples. It's the entire police culture that is rotten to the core. The police are over-militarized, trained poorly, and vetted poorly. Just about any dumb asshole can become a police officer if they really want to. It's not that hard. Believe me, I know more than a couple of them. And the culture inside the police department where they lie and cover for each other in order protect the shield and protect their "brothers" breeds bad police officers that abuse their powers. Not everyone that becomes a police officer is cut out to actually be a police officer. They are suppose to serve and protect the public. Unfortunately in far too many cases they protect themselves first and forget the serve the public part. Shoot first, ask questions later. That's not what the job is meant to be. It's a public service. A noble one at that. And it's a dangerous, unforgiving, thankless job. But it's a job that someone chooses. Nobody makes you become a police officer. There are risks associated with the job, and if you can't properly deal with those risks then you shouldn't be a police officer. It's way too militarized, way too right wing, and way too protected and held unaccountable.

And there are way too many former military service members that come home suffering from PTSD and just go right into the police force and take out their issues out on the public instead of not working and being in hardcore therapy for years like most of them need to be.

My view is there is a huge police problem in this country- and it disproportionately affects black people. There are more white people total beaten and killed by police officers every single year in this country, but there are a lot more white people in this country. In terms of % of population, blacks are disproportionately abused by police. But they use excessive force and abuse their powers and beat the snot out of white people and shoot and kill white people too. I experienced it first hand.

The US is an over-militarized, over-policed, penal colony. No other country in the entire freaking world has as many people in prisons and jails or as high of an incarceration rate. And blacks are disproportionately affected by a completely ass backwards screwed up system.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4534 on: May 30, 2020, 02:12:58 AM »
just gonna leave this here...

A gang of monkeys in India broke into a lab, attacked a lab assistant and stole covid-19 samples.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-monkeys-escape-with-covid-19-samples-after-attacking-lab-assistant-11996752?dcmp=snt-sf-twitter

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4535 on: May 30, 2020, 08:39:18 AM »
just gonna leave this here...

A gang of monkeys in India broke into a lab, attacked a lab assistant and stole covid-19 samples.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-monkeys-escape-with-covid-19-samples-after-attacking-lab-assistant-11996752?dcmp=snt-sf-twitter
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