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Topic: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas

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MrNubbz

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4480 on: May 29, 2020, 05:49:12 PM »
I don't know of anyone who is hiding in a closet.
Wearing a mask and maintaining social distance is not the same thing as hiding in a closet.
In jest - just asking about the second coming part
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4481 on: May 29, 2020, 05:54:15 PM »
Correct. That is hyperbole. There will likely never be something quite like the Black Death again due to advances in hygiene and medical treatment.

Considering how many people have been highly skeptical and quick to jump on anything fringe-y that supports it, I’m unconvinced there’s some magic tipping point that makes believers. 
What about the Spanish Flue there are plenty of archived pictures with people wearing masks back then.And they were not nearly as transient and moving viruses around back then.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4482 on: May 29, 2020, 05:56:22 PM »
True. Dummies keep electing these dummies. I totally get it. I guess these politicians are just very good at marketing and lying. They hire great PR firms and spend shit loads of money on ads, and dummies eat it all up.
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« Reply #4483 on: May 29, 2020, 05:59:37 PM »
Correct. That is hyperbole. There will likely never be something quite like the Black Death again due to advances in hygiene and medical treatment.

Considering how many people have been highly skeptical and quick to jump on anything fringe-y that supports it, I’m unconvinced there’s some magic tipping point that makes believers.
People don't like being told what to do. People don't like being lied to. People don't like being told something one day, and then something completely different days later. People like being free. I think those are pretty simple truths.

The City of LA was paying people to snitch on other people that were leaving their homes. They had that entire snitches don't get stitches they get rewards campaign or whatever the hell that disaster was. The mayor of LA came across as a simpleton that was just drunk on power. Even in interviews he just came across like a complete douche.

People shouldn't be made to stay home. Businesses shouldn't be forced to close. If you want to stay home, fine. Go ahead. If you want to close your business, go ahead. Treat people like adults, inform them of the risks, let them make their own decisions. That makes people trust their so called betters and leaders more if anything. No one wants to live in a nanny state. The idea that the government can protect you from everything in life and provide for you is laughable. The government should provide support and serve the people, and listen to the will of the people. That's it. The government should fear it's people, the people shouldn't fear the government.

Quarantine the old and sick, allow people to close their businesses or stay home if they want- but don't force them- and provide them some kind of financial support to do so if that's what they choose to do. Make people wear masks in large public gatherings- limit capacities in public events and at restaurants/stores/etc. Encourage the public to social distance and wear masks and exercise proper hygiene- and move on. It's not that hard. Sweden never forced locked downs. They gave their citizens guidelines to follow and for the most part the vast majority of their citizens did.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4484 on: May 29, 2020, 06:00:14 PM »
What about the Spanish Flue there are plenty of archived pictures with people wearing masks back then.And they were not nearly as transient and moving viruses around back then.
I think folks back then believed a mask would protest the wearer, not others.  We had no clue what a virus was back in 1918.

And they were very transient actually because of the war thing.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4485 on: May 29, 2020, 06:01:03 PM »

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4486 on: May 29, 2020, 06:03:01 PM »
People don't like being told what to do. People don't like being lied to. People don't like being told something one day, and then something completely different days later. People like being free. I think those are pretty simple truths.

Sweden never forced locked downs. They gave their citizens guidelines to follow and for the most part the vast majority of their citizens did.
If you think Americans would have made good choices in the absence of lockdowns... I don't know that we'll ever see eye to eye. 

This is America. 98% of the population would think "well, everyone else is following the guidelines and staying home, so I guess it's okay if *I* go out", and then we'd all be f****d because 98% of the population would make zero changes to their behavior. 

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« Reply #4487 on: May 29, 2020, 06:05:20 PM »
What about the Spanish Flue there are plenty of archived pictures with people wearing masks back then.And they were not nearly as transient and moving viruses around back then.
Don't even have to go that far back. Go back to the Hong Kong flu in 1968-1969 which killed over 100,000+ people in just under a year. Extrapolate the numbers and adjust to the US population today and that number would be 250,000+ people dead in just under a year.

The US never closed down shit back then. We were a way tougher people back in the day. Everyone is a f***king pansy today. Pussification of America will be the downfall of America.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4488 on: May 29, 2020, 06:09:03 PM »
Even when there is evidence to the contrary.Specially when it increasingly appears the so called "CURE " is worse than the curse.Destroy an economy and people's ability.Sooner or later these tenacles will reach everyone.And Covid will be the least of our worries.Biting off our nose to spite out face seems to be staring us in the face
I think I first heard the thing about the cure being worse than the disease at some point in late March. I heard lots of these varying degrees of skepticism.

it seems realistic that something considerably more serious will also have similar toeholds for skepticism, and if it doesn’t, there will be someone aggressively implying there are for the sake of attention and ratings.

In the end, I’ve been worn down to the point of nihilism. Everyone go do what they want. If those people are fine, wonderful, and if they’re not, they got what they wanted and a bunch of people who couldn’t avoid exposure even if they wanted to become collateral damage.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4489 on: May 29, 2020, 06:13:59 PM »
I think folks back then believed a mask would protest the wearer, not others.  We had no clue what a virus was back in 1918.

And they were very transient actually because of the war thing.
Not flying in and out of countries regularly on a daily basis encased in planes.Don't believe me ask the Egg Lobby
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4490 on: May 29, 2020, 06:23:01 PM »
What about the Spanish Flue there are plenty of archived pictures with people wearing masks back then.And they were not nearly as transient and moving viruses around back then.
I’m not sure the exact timing of that flu, but I do know it got its name from the fact the government made a point of censoring it out of the press.

I would also assume people back then were considerably more trusting of authority than we are now.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4491 on: May 29, 2020, 06:23:21 PM »

In the end, I’ve been worn down to the point of nihilism. 
I was there for a while. But I got bored of nihilism, and have become actively hostile to humanity. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4492 on: May 29, 2020, 06:23:36 PM »
In jest - just asking about the second coming part
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4493 on: May 29, 2020, 06:26:07 PM »
I view nihilism as a big nothing, it's really too much for me personally.  I like eggs daily.  And bacon.

And grits.


 

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