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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4340 on: May 27, 2020, 04:25:29 PM »
But that doesn’t fit the narrative for a large number of media talking heads??  Perhaps that’s why the keep saying Florida is gaming the numbers.  😂
The entire mainstream media is a joke. It blows my mind that the people in the media cannot see this. It’s why when Trump attacks them and calls them fake news it lands. It actually lands with a vast majority of the public. 

I find it hilarious that when this thing first broke out all the media idiots in New York were trashing Florida and it’s governor and saying Florida was going to be a disaster and the worst outbreak in the country. Turns out they were wrong. Turns out the governor from NY that they were practically blowing is the one who bungled the hit and had the worst outbreak in the entire f’ing world. AND THEY STILL PRACTICALLY BLEW HIM ON TV AND ONLINE AND IN PRINT. Why? Because he held press conferences on tv and played the tv character role of a leader- when in reality the guy was absolutely awful. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4341 on: May 28, 2020, 07:50:20 AM »
New cases reported in GA by day:
                                         NCs     7 day moving avg



It appears to have stabilized.  We have been quasi-open for over a month.  They also report hospitalizations, which is trending down but starting to level out.

https://www.ajc.com/news/coronavirus-georgia-covid-dashboard/jvoLBozRtBSVSNQDDAuZxH/

There should be a 10-17 day lag in cause and effect obviously.  We've had no disaster, but the "reopening" has been very gradual around me.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4342 on: May 28, 2020, 07:56:02 AM »
I went to the dentist yesterday, which was interesting.  I waited in my car until they called me in, and wore a mask until I got to my seat, which seemed a little goofy since then I sat there unmasked for for 45 minutes while they cleaned my teeth.  

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4343 on: May 28, 2020, 08:04:28 AM »
The dental folks should be wearing face shields, mine did before all this happened.

The risk if they do should be minimal.  You wear a mask to get into the room so as not to infect anyone else in the office.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4344 on: May 28, 2020, 08:14:24 AM »
The dental folks should be wearing face shields, mine did before all this happened.

The risk if they do should be minimal.  You wear a mask to get into the room so as not to infect anyone else in the office.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4345 on: May 28, 2020, 08:17:47 AM »
She wore a face shield and mask, though seems doubtful that would do a whole lot given she was working right above my face for a long time.  In any event not complaining just obervating.  The dentist is one place where I'm not sure there is anything one can do to prevent transmission given that level of close contact.  

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4346 on: May 28, 2020, 08:41:00 AM »
The place I go to has always worn shields, so nothing will change there. Now they will most certainly wear masks though.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4347 on: May 28, 2020, 09:01:29 AM »
The face shield thing started up for me at the dentist when HIV started to be significant.  It's to reduce the chance of any blood spattering hitting the hygienist's face.

Surgeons will wear one as well often as not unless they know the patient is "clean".  I think it would be reasonably effective at intercepting droplets if a patient sneezes or coughs or spits randomly.  Of course, as a patient you are being exposed should anyone looking in your mouth be infected, same as with a barber etc.

I think the risks are nominal.  I'd be more cautious if one is in the vulnerable groups.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4348 on: May 28, 2020, 09:46:21 AM »

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4349 on: May 28, 2020, 09:49:32 AM »
A lot of folks want the MSM to tell them what they WANT to hear and see, instead of "real news".  The various outlets are after eyeballs, they are commercial enterprises (in general) and they thrive (or die) on ratings.  So, it is in their interest to "shape the news" so as to attract as many eyeballs as possible.

An alternative would be to have only government shaped news, which I'd argue would be undesirable.

It's up to us as "consumers" to check and recheck what is not being reported, what may be misleading of false, and be suspicious of any report that is salacious or unlikely or radical.  The real news more often is boring stuff.  I don't think there is any single outlet that is reliable, but taken en masses, I think one can get a reasonable picture of what's happening.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4350 on: May 28, 2020, 10:03:12 AM »
A lot of folks want the MSM to tell them what they WANT to hear and see, instead of "real news".  The various outlets are after eyeballs, they are commercial enterprises (in general) and they thrive (or die) on ratings.  So, it is in their interest to "shape the news" so as to attract as many eyeballs as possible.

An alternative would be to have only government shaped news, which I'd argue would be undesirable.

It's up to us as "consumers" to check and recheck what is not being reported, what may be misleading of false, and be suspicious of any report that is salacious or unlikely or radical.  The real news more often is boring stuff.  I don't think there is any single outlet that is reliable, but taken en masses, I think one can get a reasonable picture of what's happening.
I think it's even worse in the internet era... Your various sites are tracking what you read and engage with, and they proactively feed you more of that (because clearly you like that content so why not more of it)? My news.google.com feed will be a lot different from your news.google.com feed because Google knows what I read and what I'm more likely to click on.

The end result is that your own news sources build your echo chamber up even further, and it then seems like what you're not seeing is not being reported on, rather than it being filtered out because you engaged with something else much more heavily.

This whole internet thing was a mistake. Al Gore should be ashamed.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4351 on: May 28, 2020, 10:10:21 AM »
"Twitter is the downfall of society."

-Charlie Strong





And you know, he was widely mocked for saying that, but I'm not so sure he's wrong.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4352 on: May 28, 2020, 10:41:25 AM »
"Twitter is the downfall of society."

-Charlie Strong

And you know, he was widely mocked for saying that, but I'm not so sure he's wrong.

I still think Facebook is worse.

"Let's take the extended family members who you have deliberately been doing your best to not see more than once or twice a year, basically only at major holidays, births, or funerals, and subject you to the minutiae of every droll thought or poorly-articulated political position they have, 24/7."

Whatever could go wrong? 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4353 on: May 28, 2020, 10:51:42 AM »
I find FB to be entertaining, and somewhat illuminating.  Those are pluses in my book.

It is certainly used to circulate idiotic twaddle and falsehoods, but so is rumor and innuendo verbally, and that cannot be readily countered.

I think foreign bots have generated a lot of misleading memes about wearing a face mask, and they seem difficult to counter there are so many.

 

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