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Big Beef Tacosupreme

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4228 on: May 24, 2020, 07:56:08 PM »
its a good thing we dont run Texas like NYC

In fact its a good thing NYC does not reflect the vast majority of this country


Y’all got different genes around those parts?  Haha. 

I’m only posting data on death rates. Back of the napkin math:  under 65 and you get sick is about a 0.1% death rate.  Over 65 is about a 5-10% death rate.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4229 on: May 24, 2020, 08:12:22 PM »
Y’all got different genes around those parts?  Haha.

I’m only posting data on death rates. Back of the napkin math:  under 65 and you get sick is about a 0.1% death rate.  Over 65 is about a 5-10% death rate. In NYC
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4230 on: May 24, 2020, 08:12:40 PM »
Maybe there is a little hitch here.  5% of NYC's deaths are to those under 65 with no co-morbidities.  That would seem to mean that some of the 95% are under 65 but have co-morbidities.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4231 on: May 24, 2020, 09:08:34 PM »
Maybe there is a little hitch here.  5% of NYC's deaths are to those under 65 with no co-morbidities.  That would seem to mean that some of the 95% are under 65 but have co-morbidities.
I’m not 100% sure of the numbers, that’s why I went with the 5-10% fatality range.  Low end of the range is really taking a rosy look at the numbers.  

data is linked above if yinz want to rerun the numbers. 


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4232 on: May 24, 2020, 09:40:07 PM »
Maybe there is a little hitch here.  5% of NYC's deaths are to those under 65 with no co-morbidities.  That would seem to mean that some of the 95% are under 65 but have co-morbidities.
Apropos of nothing, I still want to find out what percentage of people have co-morbidities. If it's like 10, that's one thing. If it's like 40, that's another. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4233 on: May 24, 2020, 09:46:07 PM »
BBTS:

I looked at the link, which--in the case of NYC--isn't much more than you copied and pasted.

I think I can conclude this:

4.5% of the NYC COVID-19 deaths have been people who were under 65 and had no underlying medical issues.

89% of all age-group members who have died have had underlying medical issues, but we don't know the rate of underlying issues among either those 65 and older or those younger than 65.

Therefore, we can't really say that 95% of the NYC COVID-19 death toll is coming from those 65 and older.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4234 on: May 24, 2020, 09:58:03 PM »
Apropos of nothing, I still want to find out what percentage of people have co-morbidities. If it's like 10, that's one thing. If it's like 40, that's another.
Well that data isn't available, but I think it is safe to say that your odds of having health problems are much higher after age 65.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4235 on: May 24, 2020, 10:02:18 PM »
BBTS:

I looked at the link, which--in the case of NYC--isn't much more than you copied and pasted.

I think I can conclude this:

4.5% of the NYC COVID-19 deaths have been people who were under 65 and had no underlying medical issues.

89% of all age-group members who have died have had underlying medical issues, but we don't know the rate of underlying issues among either those 65 and older or those younger than 65.

Therefore, we can't really say that 95% of the NYC COVID-19 death toll is coming from those 65 and older.
Now that I look at it, I believe you are correct sir.  It was nice to actually see some data, but that link already figured out most of the relevant data.  

So we can conclude that if you have underlying health problems, or over the age of 65, your odds of dying are MUCH higher, as this accounts approx 95% of all COVID deaths.  So, perhaps not 1 in 50 New Yorkers over age 65 dead.  In fact, we have to take that back, because we don't know how many deaths had other issues, like you said.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4236 on: May 24, 2020, 10:08:15 PM »
I'd simply throw out data from NYC

but, that's just me
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4237 on: May 24, 2020, 11:29:34 PM »
Everybody's a statistician thanks to this thing.  Ugh.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4238 on: May 25, 2020, 12:22:14 AM »
Having data is a better place to start than having nothing but an opinion.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4239 on: May 25, 2020, 06:45:59 AM »
Having data is a better place to start than having nothing but an opinion.
Yeah man, that's just your opinion....

GA had a better reported new cases at 660, but it was Sunday.  Deaths reported were very low at 5.  Deaths of course reflect someone who contracted the virus as much as a month ago.  We know the elderly are unusually vulnerable.  If this is spreading, for example, among poultry workers, they would be younger (and largely Hispanic if that matters), so number of reported cases could be rising while hospitalized cases continues to fall.  That's a notion consistent with the data.

There also could be more testing in the poultry region of GA (NE).


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4240 on: May 25, 2020, 08:53:12 AM »
Having data is a better place to start than having nothing but an opinion.
Yeah but some folks decide to throw out any data that contravenes their opinion because NYC.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #4241 on: May 25, 2020, 08:56:09 AM »
A lot of folks "throw out data" (and facts) because it doesn't match their preconceived.

 

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