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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3934 on: May 15, 2020, 08:56:38 AM »
They had a price spike in December on rumors of a takeover bid, and then a collapse back, the futures this AM are up strongly again.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3935 on: May 15, 2020, 08:58:33 AM »
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3936 on: May 15, 2020, 09:09:13 AM »
Now if we can keep Trump from talking about it everyone will get behind this
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3937 on: May 15, 2020, 09:17:47 AM »
Whether "we" get behind it or not is unlikely to matter really.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3938 on: May 15, 2020, 09:20:35 AM »
Yeah, if it works, everyone will get behind it. If it doesn't, it'll quietly fall into the dustbin of history.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3939 on: May 15, 2020, 09:27:55 AM »
fingers crossed

It could help us have a real college football season
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3940 on: May 15, 2020, 09:29:26 AM »
Quote from: bwarbiany on May 15, 2020, 09:20:35 AM
Yeah, if it works, everyone will get behind it. If it doesn't, it'll quietly fall into the dustbin of history.
Youre just more trusting then me

I hope youre right if this thing actually works
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3941 on: May 15, 2020, 09:31:10 AM »
Now the next question is if this drug works just how soon before we get it
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3942 on: May 15, 2020, 09:32:44 AM »
If it did work and had no side effects, what is there to trust?  Who would derail this thing that could derail it?

There will be the usual SM claims it contains a Bill Gates Microchip of course, but that sort of thing is fringe.  The FDA will evaluate it, and I expect they can manage that aspect.  If it really works, they will clear it and doctors everywhere will lunge for it.

This is not news that can be somehow suppressed.  Anyone who would want to suppress it for political reasons won't be able to.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3943 on: May 15, 2020, 09:34:15 AM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on May 15, 2020, 09:31:10 AM
Now the next question is if this drug works just how soon before we get it
It should be scalable, and in reality, we'd only need it to treat those who are infected.  It's ostensibly a cure, like penicillin.

We don't all take penicillin every day (for good reason).  We wouldn't need everyone to take this either.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3944 on: May 15, 2020, 09:40:37 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on May 15, 2020, 09:34:15 AM
It should be scalable, and in reality, we'd only need it to treat those who are infected.  It's ostensibly a cure, like penicillin.

We don't all take penicillin every day (for good reason).  We wouldn't need everyone to take this either.
Supposedly they're thinking about this as a prophylactic... Getting the antibodies into your system pre-infection, conferring some limited period of immunity. Not exactly a vaccine, because I don't know that it teaches your immune system to produce antibodies to this virus, but that it would be vaccine-like in that it would prevent exposure to the virus from becoming an active infection.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3945 on: May 15, 2020, 09:54:43 AM »
I think treatment would be first obviously, and then certain sectors like health care workers would be pretreated as it were.

It would not be needed for the regular public.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3946 on: May 15, 2020, 10:22:46 AM »
I was under the impression that this drug is not only a cure but also a vaccine 

If so it could be given to everyone in hot spots etc

and later on used as a vaccine for everyone in general
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3947 on: May 15, 2020, 10:30:38 AM »
A classical vaccine "tricks" our immune system into a fast response to the "germ".  This does not work that way, I wouldn't call it a vaccine.  It's a treatment.

Like penicillin, both work as a preventative IF you then get exposed (probably fairly soon thereafter), but it does not generate immunity within the body for long.

It's a treatment.  We'd use it selectively, not on everyone.  The virus COULD mutate and the treament would have to be modified over time.
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