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Topic: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3892 on: May 14, 2020, 03:00:23 PM »
If you always feel ripped off, don't dine out obviously, but perhaps you are not finding the right places.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3893 on: May 14, 2020, 03:02:18 PM »
Wisconsin's Supreme Court struck down the Governor's "safer at home" order as non-constitutional. Wisconsin is open. We'll see what that leads to now.
Based on the anecdotal evidence I saw last night from friends who live east of the St Croix (packed bars within hours of the decision in many different parts of the state), I'm filing it under "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes."

Speaking of trying to push back on entry restrictions...


https://twitter.com/waEMD/status/1260751258861703169?s=19

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3894 on: May 14, 2020, 03:11:06 PM »
That's my experience eating out in general in America. I always feel ripped off.
Man if you feel you're getting ripped off in America, you'd really hate dining out in other countries where it's much, MUCH more expensive.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3895 on: May 14, 2020, 03:22:00 PM »
I'm often surprised how reasonable it is to dine out in France relatively, and the food is better for the money IMHO.  They also don't upcharge for wine ridiculously.  A bottle of wine here on the menu is often more than double RETAIL.  So, if it's $60 on the menu, it would be $30 at Kroger, and they all pay $20 for the bottle.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3896 on: May 14, 2020, 03:38:57 PM »
I'm often surprised how reasonable it is to dine out in France relatively, and the food is better for the money IMHO.  They also don't upcharge for wine ridiculously.  A bottle of wine here on the menu is often more than double RETAIL.  So, if it's $60 on the menu, it would be $30 at Kroger, and they all pay $20 for the bottle.
That was my experience in Paris and Rome. Plus tipping not really a thing. Some eating experiences here, especially at chain restaurants, feels like an exercise in how much money they can extract from you as opposed to enjoying a good meal.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3897 on: May 14, 2020, 03:49:43 PM »
Chain restaurants in general are akin to factories.  They can be decent places to dine at times, but they do have a "System" which is intended to maximize profit.  I avoid them generally speaking with a few exceptions here and there.

My son in law is a CIA graduate and worked for a while at Macaroni Grill.  He said they produced a pretty good quality product and everything was systemitized in terms of ingredients and production to be efficient.  He was generally laudatory of them.  He now lives in France.

The wife used to like to go to Seasons 52, which is a decent chain, when we lived in Cincinnati.  We still go to Macaroni Grill on occasion because I can get $50 gift cards there for $40.  Neither is my favorite place to eat.  

I've mentioned before that the wife used to like KFC and thought their chicken was good.  She doesn't any more.

I suppose it's like thinking Arby's croissants are really good and then having one in France.

Our local favorite place here is pretty similar to a French bistro.  They had outdoor dining.  It is not terribly expensive if you don't get an alcoholic beverage.  We both ordered one today to celebrate their reopening, but the managed comped them for us.  So, I left an overlarge tip.

It's interesting that tipping is rarely done in France but the service in my experience is usually quite good.  The service is included in the bill, which is usually pretty reasonable.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3898 on: May 14, 2020, 03:54:24 PM »
I worked in a chain restaurant as a waiter. Looking back, they hired a million people because they didn't have to pay us much. It didn't create much of a team atmosphere. It seemed like in Paris there were fewer waiters but they worked together a lot better.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3899 on: May 14, 2020, 03:55:12 PM »

It's interesting that tipping is rarely done in France but the service in my experience is usually quite good.  The service is included in the bill, which is usually pretty reasonable.
Tipping is a pox on our society (maybe not that dramatic, but it's not great as an idea, even if it works great for servers of alcohol)

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3900 on: May 14, 2020, 04:16:44 PM »
Tipping is a pox on our society (maybe not that dramatic, but it's not great as an idea, even if it works great for servers of alcohol)
Yep. I also kind of hate how it's sprouted around all food service. Jersey Mike's has a space for a tip.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3901 on: May 14, 2020, 04:19:11 PM »
We used to dine every 3 weeks or so at a nearby French restaurant.  Obviously we were pleased with the product they provided for the cost.  The food is not true French, but it's reasonably close.  Our ingredients are not the same.  About half the servers there are French and they enjoy speaking French with the wife.  I will routinely be over $120 with tip, and it's usually half priced wine night for them.  Between not going there and not traveling, I'm saving a good bit of money that otherwise would have gone towards the GDP and taxes.

They remain closed.  I see the botanical garden is reopening next week for members only.

The cities and states are getting killed on tax revenue losses.

I was perusing some magazine's top 50 restaurants in the metro area and counted five that we have been to.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3902 on: May 14, 2020, 04:21:43 PM »
I’m a tightwad in my most areas but I enjoy eating out. I don’t mind  spend spending a lot of money on a nice meal in a nice place.  But I have to enjoy it and it has to fill me up. Neither happened last week. Actually, for $23 that damn pound cake would have had to give me an orgasm for me to think I got my money’s worth out of it.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3903 on: May 14, 2020, 04:56:40 PM »
I don't eat out much because of the price

when I do, I enjoy it and don't think of it as being ripped off.  I think of it as an entertainment expense.  It's always with friends and it's the experience and socializing I care about.

Same goes for drinking socially in bars.

If I just want good food and good drink, I can do that easily at home or at a friend's house for much less money.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3904 on: May 14, 2020, 05:03:59 PM »
I’m a tightwad in my most areas but I enjoy eating out. I don’t mind  spend spending a lot of money on a nice meal in a nice place.  But I have to enjoy it and it has to fill me up. Neither happened last week. Actually, for $23 that damn pound cake would have had to give me an orgasm for me to think I got my money’s worth out of it.
Two in a row at that price.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3905 on: May 14, 2020, 05:05:40 PM »
Many here really enjoy cooking, and I get where Max and Bwar coming from. I'm the same. I can make just about anything I've ever eaten in a restaurant (including Chef Tables), and better.
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