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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3878 on: May 14, 2020, 01:42:26 PM »
Well 95% of Papa John's are franchised rather than corporate-owned company stores, so there's a very good chance that the purchase of your Papa John's pizza supported a local business owner, and a 100% chance that it supported local employees.

So, good on you, you bought local just as your friends urged you to do!
I find myself split on this.

On the one hand, these things are true. But, spiritually it feels weird. Like if I said, that place has a lot of local restaurants, all Dominos and Subways, that would feel weird.

In any case, folks will do what they gotta and I won't judge. I'm in part throwing money toward non-chain local restaurants because I like what they do, and since I only have so much money, if I can contribute to keeping a unique sandwich place standing, I'd prefer that to ensuring one of the seven Papa Johns near me stays open. 

Maybe it's because I fear if a non-franchise goes under, it will not return, whereas if a franchise does, it not only will return, but will mostly just change a drive to pick up or delivery process. That feels harsh to the unique people who run those restaurants, but the product they sell is of course not unique. 

Anyway, food for thought. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3879 on: May 14, 2020, 01:45:43 PM »
I find myself split on this.

On the one hand, these things are true. But, spiritually it feels weird. Like if I said, that place has a lot of local restaurants, all Dominos and Subways, that would feel weird.

In any case, folks will do what they gotta and I won't judge. I'm in part throwing money toward non-chain local restaurants because I like what they do, and since I only have so much money, if I can contribute to keeping a unique sandwich place standing, I'd prefer that to ensuring one of the seven Papa Johns near me stays open.

Maybe it's because I fear if a non-franchise goes under, it will not return, whereas if a franchise does, it not only will return, but will mostly just change a drive to pick up or delivery process. That feels harsh to the unique people who run those restaurants, but the product they sell is of course not unique.

Anyway, food for thought.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3880 on: May 14, 2020, 02:02:42 PM »
I do as I have always done

support the places I like the best

I liked 5 guys burgers and supported it.  Apparently not enough people had the same appreciation or possibly it was simply miss managed, but it failed and closed

I don't go into Walmart, but that's because I dislike the experience

I do shop at Amazon because I don't dislike the experience
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3881 on: May 14, 2020, 02:07:19 PM »
This is where I sit. Chains are a dime a dozen. It's the true locals that make a neighborhood.
Oh yeah, I eat at one-off locals almost exclusively for all the reasons you and bab cited. 

But I also don't judge other people for their choices.  If you like Papa John's pizza then you should eat Papa John's pizza, regardless of what some judgey friends mght say about it.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3882 on: May 14, 2020, 02:25:19 PM »
We don't have many chains around us relatively.  We had lunch at our favorite place, outside.  At one point we were the only people dining.  I went back later to pick up some cheesecake and they had maybe 8 tables dining, so it's not a complete disaster.  The bill was $33 and I left a $30 tip.

We walked around some after and stopped in Whole Foods which looks like maybe 30% normal business activity.  

Construction still going flat out, hotels all closed.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3883 on: May 14, 2020, 02:28:37 PM »
I don't eat Papa Johns not because they're not local, but because I'm a food snob. 

Cicero's around the corner is much better. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3884 on: May 14, 2020, 02:38:35 PM »
A 12-year-old from Gage Park on the Southwest Side has died after being diagnosed with COVID-19, the youngest victim of the disease in Cook County, according to the medical examiner's office.

Ernesto Guzman was pronounced dead at 12:18 a.m. Thursday at Advocate Christ Medical Center in Oak Lawn, according to the office.

The primary cause of death was listed as pneumonia, with contributing factors listed as COVID-19 viral infection, asthma, obstructive sleep apnea and Charcot-Marie-Tooth disorder, the office said.

An autopsy was scheduled for later Thursday, but the office said Ernesto is the youngest known death from COVID-19 in Cook County.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3885 on: May 14, 2020, 02:39:19 PM »
My kids liked Papa John's and I could abide it OK.  And they had specials ALL THE TIME.  If I didn't feel like cooking, for them it was a treat and I could zip there and back in 5 minutes back in the day.  

I consider there to be five major food groups, and the pizza covers 3 of them, if the kids had a Coke (which was rare) and I had a beer (which was not) that covered another food group.

I almost never allowed soft drinks, chips, cookies, desert in the house when I had kids.  I still don't mostly except the wife likes a Coke on occasion.  Soft drinks are pretty horrible things to put in your body, and don't get me going on fructose.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3886 on: May 14, 2020, 02:47:19 PM »
I had pizza hut for the first time in a long time the other day. One of my kids likes having her own cheese pizza, and thought she might like the personal pan. It was undercooked.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3887 on: May 14, 2020, 02:48:47 PM »
We had two bad experiences with local places last Friday. The first was a little cafe that only serves breakfast and lunch. Apparently they had been touting pound cakes they were making on Facebook.  While I was out my wife told me to get one. When the guy rung me up he told me it would be $18.02. I internalized my shock and ended up paying $23 with tip for this little rectangular cake that wasn’t half as good as the vanilla pound cakes I can get at Kroger for like 6 bucks.  Half of it is still sitting in kitchen right now because one wanted more than one piece.

Then that evening we ordered dinner from a place we normally like. They were trying some  new deli style entrees so my daughter and I got meat loaf sandwiches with tater tots.  Whatever condiment concoction was on it didn’t pair well with meatloaf and onion on it. The tater tots ended up being sweet potato tots and I’m not a big sweet potato fan. Again, after tip I was in nearly $60. I wasn’t the happiest camper.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3888 on: May 14, 2020, 02:49:23 PM »
I prefer hard drinks
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3889 on: May 14, 2020, 02:52:06 PM »
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3890 on: May 14, 2020, 02:54:15 PM »
We had two bad experiences with local places last Friday. The first was a little cafe that only serves breakfast and lunch. Apparently they had been touting pound cakes they were making on Facebook.  While I was out my wife told me to get one. When the guy rung me up he told me it would be $18.02. I internalized my shock and ended up paying $23 with tip for this little rectangular cake that wasn’t half as good as the vanilla pound cakes I can get at Kroger for like 6 bucks.  Half of it is still sitting in kitchen right now because one wanted more than one piece.

Then that evening we ordered dinner from a place we normally like. They were trying some  new deli style entrees so my daughter and I got meat loaf sandwiches with tater tots.  Whatever condiment concoction was on it didn’t pair well with meatloaf and onion on it. The tater tots ended up being sweet potato tots and I’m not a big sweet potato fan. Again, after tip I was in nearly $60. I wasn’t the happiest camper.
That's my experience eating out in general in America. I always feel ripped off.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3891 on: May 14, 2020, 02:59:36 PM »
Dining out has gotten expensive.  We used to go out for lunch 2-3 times a week and the tab would often exceed $50.  If you order alcohol of course all bets are off.  These are not high end places.  They aren't Subway either of course.

Speaking of which, we were in Chartres years ago and set out in the evening to see the sights and cathedral etc. and after a bit started thinking about dinner.  After several attempts to dine somewhere, we finally gave up, it was 9 PM, and went to Subway.  In France.

It came to 28 euros as I recall.  We still laugh about it, so its a souvenir, as the French say.

Venir is the French verb for "to come".  Souvenir is basically money to come, or something like that.

 

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