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Topic: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas

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longhorn320

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3696 on: May 11, 2020, 11:59:09 AM »
you guys are really putting out negative vibes

we are going to beat this thing with a miracle drug that will be available in the next few months

see I can project just like you guys do with no evidence at all
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3697 on: May 11, 2020, 12:08:14 PM »


Gene Rodenberry dreamed of a cell phone,Jules Verne Dreamed about submarines and self conatined breathing apparatus,Edison dreamed about electric light bulbs,Michelangelo dreamed of many inventions while painting the Sisten Chapel.Later on these things came to fruition - it's not out of the realm
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3698 on: May 11, 2020, 12:12:15 PM »
one death. not one infection

if a football team with 100 on the roster gets it, the percentage will be high, maybe 50%

if 5 kids get very sick, that will be cause for concern

if one kid dies......... it's game over

we just had a death reported this morning in this county of 103,000 - age 19-30

obviously great chance that young person had other health issues

There are already so many more threat vectors in that age group than just playing this game.  They're still hooking up and having sex with other young people, that never stopped.  They're till going to house parties and drinking, that never stopped.  And now that restaurants and parks and beaches are opening up, they don't have to hide it behind closed doors.  Any spreading that's going to occur in that age group is already well underway, and will get much much more common over the next 4-8 weeks.

Like I keep saying, things are going to look very different two months from now.   You simply can't apply your current lens, to what this issue is going to look like at the end of the summer.  It won't be anywhere close.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3699 on: May 11, 2020, 12:19:30 PM »
I hope you are right

I hope we have a football season

and best case would be because most of us are immune and almost all the players are immune
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« Reply #3700 on: May 11, 2020, 12:24:07 PM »
I hope you are right

I hope we have a football season

and best case would be because most of us are immune and almost all the players are immune

The Southern schools are going to resume classes on-campus.  The PAC=west and NW might not.  Not sure about the Northeastern schools either.

So if we do have college football, it might not be everyone.  It'll be interesting to see how they proceed with those holes in the schedule to be filled.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3701 on: May 11, 2020, 12:28:42 PM »
The Southern schools are going to resume classes on-campus.  The PAC=west and NW might not.  Not sure about the Northeastern schools either.

So if we do have college football, it might not be everyone.  It'll be interesting to see how they proceed with those holes in the schedule to be filled.

so we put Austin State School on our schedule and carry on
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3702 on: May 11, 2020, 12:45:26 PM »
  It'll be interesting to see how they proceed with those holes in the schedule to be filled.
As long as there are no holes in the roster
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« Reply #3703 on: May 11, 2020, 12:51:52 PM »
The Southern schools are going to resume classes on-campus.  The PAC=west and NW might not.  Not sure about the Northeastern schools either.

this is the plan now.  hopefully, the opening of Georgia and other states doesn't cause a surge that will change the plan.

holes in the schedule can be overcome.  I know it's not easy, but when huge $$$ are at stake, it can happen.  Even a conference schedule with one or two non-con games is worth a ton of cash.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3704 on: May 11, 2020, 12:56:39 PM »
We didn't know it 8 weeks ago, so I don't contest the wisdom of attempting strict lock-down, but I believe it is now apparent that this is all we were ever going to be able to do.  The virus got here too quickly, and it's too infectious, ever to have eliminated it or stopped transmission.  All we could ever do was attempt to slow down transmission enough so that we didn't compound the deaths by overrunning the hospitals.
I think America needed a REAL lockdown. 

Because the careful reopening is not going to be a return to normal. It's going to be a return to economic activity with a MUCH stricter attention paid to social distancing and remaining safe than we've ever seen. People are going to wear masks. Stores are going to limit number of people inside and enforce distancing. Literally life is going to completely change until this burns out. 

Swedes trust their government institutions. Americans do not.

Therefore, if a bunch of governors, even POTUS, had asked Americans to voluntarily do what the Swedes have done, do you think for a SECOND that we would have complied? Would any of us on this message board be wearing masks when we go out? No, we'd be in COVID-19 hell right now. Heck, in some places we still have problems with masks and social distancing, as seen by all the protests. 

Forcing the lockdowns was a bit of a mental "reset" for this country. I honestly don't think we'd have taken COVID-19 seriously enough without them.

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« Reply #3705 on: May 11, 2020, 01:22:30 PM »
I think America needed a REAL lockdown.
China's people are unfortunately expendable to the CCP.Are ours?Because Only folks who either have enough supplies or money hoarded AWAY could ride that scenerio out.They were welding buildings shut with infected or otherwise going to be infected people inside.Are you good with that if that's you or yours?And how long do we hole up or is the virus dorment in waiting if not properly disinfected.Too many question marks to answer in the positive.
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« Reply #3706 on: May 11, 2020, 01:33:33 PM »
On a lighter note,a radio station interviewed a local microbiologist about a vaccine being developed.He seemed optimistic about the work being done at Oxford University moving forward.Evidently they've been working on a MERS vaccine that was tolerated well and triggered the development of antibodies, when this COVID broke out 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3707 on: May 11, 2020, 01:38:13 PM »
I think America needed a REAL lockdown.


I disagree,  because I don't think a "REAL" lockdown does anything other than delay the inevitable.

My factories in China have begun decommitting on their promised production.  They're going back into lockdown and despite whatever BS propaganda their government is putting out there, we all know exactly why.

In Korea one night of open clubbing resulted in numerous new cases.

Cases in Singapore are on the rise again.

The best we could have ever hoped, was to keep the hospitals from being overrun.  That's it. 


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3708 on: May 11, 2020, 02:01:26 PM »
The best we could have ever hoped, was to keep the hospitals from being overrun.  That's it. 
I feel like everyone saw "flatten the curve" and said it, without understanding what it meant.  It was about minimizing the spike, and not overwhelming hospitals.  And it seems like we mostly did that.  It wasn't going to necessarily reduce total cases, and it was almost certainly going to drag this out farther.  Some people were going to be exposed and be fine; others were going to get it and die, no matter how much care they got.  Flattening the curve was about saving the people who needed medical assistance, but would have come through, as long as there wasn't a scarcity of resources.  I think we've largely done that.

Am I comfortable opening back up?  No.  But that's more due to idiots out at beaches and parks and protests.  If people are going to be responsible, life will be different, but I think certain things need to open up...slowly, because nobody is going to start being more comfortable until we do.  There are certainly rough patches ahead, but it's not like even if we went into total 8 month lockdown, that it would end with a universal re-opening, and everything going back to normal anyway.

It's not like if come July 1 everything was opened back up, I'd be going to a baseball game.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3709 on: May 11, 2020, 02:13:55 PM »
China's people are unfortunately expendable to the CCP.Are ours?Because Only folks who either have enough supplies or money hoarded AWAY could ride that scenerio out.They were welding buildings shut with infected or otherwise going to be infected people inside.Are you good with that if that's you or yours?And how long do we hole up or is the virus dorment in waiting if not properly disinfected.Too many question marks to answer in the positive.
Sorry, I realized I was REALLY unclear when I talked about that. I call our lockdown a "REAL" lockdown, or as close to one as Americans would tolerate. I wouldn't support a China-style lockdown, and that wasn't the impression I was trying to get across. But I can see how it would be interpreted that way, and I apologize for being unclear. 

The bulk of my point was that Americans would never have dutifully taken a "voluntary" stay at home suggestion the way the Swedes have done. We would have completely disregarded it and gone about our lives until this thing exploded in our faces. 

The reason we needed the stay at home orders instead of suggestions was to smack Americans upside the head and get them to pay attention. 

 

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