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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3668 on: May 10, 2020, 04:13:09 PM »
We can have it and not know it for days, which is one of the issues with this one.

I don't mind wearing one when I'm in Kroger or whatever.  We're not somehow required to wear one walking down the street.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3669 on: May 10, 2020, 04:17:21 PM »
if I had ANY reason to think I might have the virus, I would limit my time outside the house and I'd wear a mask if I was forced to be near anyone else 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3670 on: May 10, 2020, 05:42:51 PM »
So, what happens IF (as we all devoutly hope) Georgia and Sweden don't incur some kind of calamity in the coming weeks?  (Not a prediction, simply a possibility.)

I am attempting to track both closely.  The models suggest something pretty close to a calamity, a surge, hospitals being overrun in Sweden, etc.

I know some will claim it as evidence we overreacted, but one could also claim because we overreacted, this was possible.

Or we see a surge and have to shut it down again, which would mean among other things a collapsing stock market and economy and no CFB.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3671 on: May 10, 2020, 07:08:24 PM »
So, what happens IF (as we all devoutly hope) Georgia and Sweden don't incur some kind of calamity in the coming weeks?  (Not a prediction, simply a possibility.)

I am attempting to track both closely.  The models suggest something pretty close to a calamity, a surge, hospitals being overrun in Sweden, etc.

I know some will claim it as evidence we overreacted, but one could also claim because we overreacted, this was possible.

Or we see a surge and have to shut it down again, which would mean among other things a collapsing stock market and economy and no CFB.


Georgia sure is looking good so far

hope it holds
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3672 on: May 10, 2020, 09:18:34 PM »
*https://www.businessinsider.com/deborah-birx-cdc-comments-coronavirus-task-force-meeting-2020-5*

Birx said 'there is nothing from the CDC that I can trust' in a White House coronavirus task force meeting
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3673 on: May 10, 2020, 09:46:00 PM »
*https://www.businessinsider.com/deborah-birx-cdc-comments-coronavirus-task-force-meeting-2020-5*

Birx said 'there is nothing from the CDC that I can trust' in a White House coronavirus task force meeting

That article is an interesting brand of aggregation. Dig through another story, find the spiciest detail and bring it to the forefront with a nice and sensational headline. 

I'm more interested in the why. The explanation is an antiquated system is inflating numbers. I wonder the mechanics of that. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3674 on: May 10, 2020, 10:02:50 PM »
Depends on how legit the CDC is anymore at this point,every one is a liar except for you and me and I'm not so sure about you
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3675 on: May 10, 2020, 11:03:34 PM »
Depends on how legit the CDC is anymore at this point,every one is a liar except for you and me and I'm not so sure about you
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3676 on: May 11, 2020, 02:08:24 AM »
I will rely upon a high school teammate. He was 6' 3" or 4" pleadings with us from a hospital bed in Iowa, to take face masking seriously. Do so or do not do so at your peril.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3677 on: May 11, 2020, 08:18:22 AM »
Georgia sure is looking good so far

hope it holds
One day spike yesterday to 940 new cases.  And yes, there is more testing of course, I'm trying to look at trends rather than single day figures, obviously they bounce a lot.

This does boost the 7 and 10 day MA obv.

This is about the time new cases would be showing up if things are worse because of Kemp's decision.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3678 on: May 11, 2020, 09:18:00 AM »
You trust yourself to not be a liar? First step to being the sucker
Sorry I didn't use the sarcasm font but you know exactly who to trust?Keep us in the loop then.You'll have to excuse me as I've been helping Cindy's friend clear out her hair salon,that it appears she's losing after 30 +years. Because of the worst pandemic that has ever hit mankind but her and I in our ignorance don't know of anyone who's died of this horrble affliction.But it won't be a depression until others start losing their shit - right?I mean that's what I've been told.The only good thing is her kids are out of the house.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3679 on: May 11, 2020, 09:25:18 AM »
We need to open up, smartly. States like Illinois were already in financial ruin, and states like Illinois are the ones staying on lockdown. The governor has set goals for opening, that might not ever be reached. This is not smart policy.

There is no reason for cities like Ottawa, IL to be shut down. You want to keep Chicago closed? OK, I can understand that one. These policies are killing small businesses all over the state - the backbone.

In Florida you can go get a haircut starting today. I've learned to cut my own, so no need. A lot of people have done this, I would think, which is gonna put a hurt on hair salons and barber shops.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3680 on: May 11, 2020, 09:25:50 AM »
There is reason not to trust various figures, but they are what we have.  They could be low or high or average out to about right.

The reported figures in the US show a pretty steady 2,000 deaths per day attributed to COVID.  The total death rates in some areas like NYC is 3 times what is typical for this time of year.  Reported COVID deaths account for about half that increase.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3681 on: May 11, 2020, 09:29:38 AM »
The barbershops here are by appointment only, and appear to be operating at a much slower rate.  I imagine the salons and nail places are the same.  Most malls have opened, but as noted, hardly anyone is shopping there.  You can "reopen" and find many many people don't play along.

Someone might flip a switch and say "OK, everything is back to normal, everything" and you'd find initially maybe a quarter of the missing activity perked up, and that would diminish if numbers started looking bad.  Initially it would grow of course.

Folks are scared, many folks.  The cruise lines are shut down, I see air travel is 10% normal if that, hotels are shut down.  Even restaurants that are open are barely seeing any diners.  Legal reopening doesn't mean throwing a switch.

 

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