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Topic: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3290 on: May 02, 2020, 10:26:10 AM »
I think folks understand this reopening has to be stepwise and gradual and will depend on what transpires.  My GUESS is we have CFB being played but in largely empty stadia.  If a team has an outbreak during practice, that could be reversed quickly of course and that would probably be that.

If "we" don't develop herd immunity with this thing, the prognosis is dire for those primarily affected by it.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3291 on: May 02, 2020, 10:31:12 AM »
The people in the highest at-risk groups will either have to remain locked down for a very long time, or make the decision that they're simply willing to take the risk in order to live a normal life.

My parents are certainly at-risk, and once I finally convinced them this wasn't a hoax, they've been diligent about distancing.  But there is zero chance they will live their lives that way.  In another month or so, as things reopen, I have no doubt that they're going to go back to being out and about.  They'll wear masks when appropriate, I suspect.  They'll distance at whatever is appropriate for the venue/timing.  But they're not going to stay locked down.  They don't want to live their lives that way, and they'll be willing to assume the risks. 

It'll totally suck if they catch it and it harms them.  It will also totally suck if my mom's cancer comes back and THAT harms her.  Life is full of risks, and grown adults can make decisions for themselves.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3293 on: May 02, 2020, 10:32:24 AM »
Wearing a mask does not protect you from infection to a significant degree.  That isn't its purpose.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3294 on: May 02, 2020, 10:46:16 AM »
The problem with any new miracle drug is the time required for testing.  The FDA rushed through remdesivir because it had been tested years ago and at least shown to be generally well tolerated.  Imagine someone concocts an  New Drug Entity  it would have zero safety profile.  Even if it works in accelerated clinicals, it would need a safety profile as well before approved for wide use.


well until that day arrives we need to explore whether herd immunity is even possible with this virus
if it is then at least we would have a plan B antibody testing and continuing to reopen where possible
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3295 on: May 02, 2020, 11:25:40 AM »
Wearing a mask does not protect you from infection to a significant degree.  That isn't its purpose.
Yes-- pretty sure we all know that.

Although an N95 actually does protect the wearer.  But those aren't widely available.  Perhaps they will be in the future.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3296 on: May 02, 2020, 12:16:37 PM »
An N95 can provide some protections IFF it is FITTED and WORN PROPERLY.

It is NOT some failsafe item everyone can use and be protected, at all.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3297 on: May 02, 2020, 02:32:52 PM »
An N95 can provide some protections IFF it is FITTED and WORN PROPERLY.

It is NOT some failsafe item everyone can use and be protected, at all.
Nobody ever said that.  I'm not sure why you're tilting at windmills here...


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3298 on: May 02, 2020, 02:36:55 PM »
Yes-- pretty sure we all know that.

Although an N95 actually does protect the wearer.  But those aren't widely available.  Perhaps they will be in the future.
I disagree with the assertion that it does protest the wearer.  It may provide some protection if properly worn and fitted and discarded.  I don't think we should aspire to having them available for use by the general public.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3299 on: May 02, 2020, 09:23:27 PM »
 Life is full of risks, and grown adults can make decisions for themselves.
I wish we could insert "good" into that sentence...but we can't.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3300 on: May 03, 2020, 07:36:01 AM »
Went to Publix yesterday after we rolled in to our home. Everyone was wearing a mask. In Florida.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3301 on: May 03, 2020, 07:42:49 AM »
Restaurants were open for indoor seating in Tennessee and Georgia. They were not in Illinois or Kentucky, and they are not in Florida. I think Florida opens for socially distant outdoor seating only, tomorrow. We did not eat in any restaurants on the way down. We opted for take out.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3302 on: May 03, 2020, 07:44:45 AM »
Most folks out shopping here wear masks.  It's a good idea I think.  If you are in the park and nobody is within ten feet it's rather pointless.

I still don't have any idea how many asymptomatic but contagious folks are out and about.  We need data from testing rep samples for the virus and also serological tests of antibodies, also rep samples.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3303 on: May 03, 2020, 07:49:15 AM »
Some restaurants in Georgia are open.  Very few around me are.  I know Waffle House opened with separated seating.  

I'd be fine with outdoor dining with separated tables.  The weather is very nice here in May.  I just checked and Atmosphere is closed totally still.  Three owners I chatted with say they may open mid-May inside dining.

We're been getting takeout for lunch several times a week and eating in the park at a table in the sun.  There aren't many people in that part of the park, it's a bit secluded despite having a nice sitting area and grassy areas.  Most folks go to the larger lawn areas to the south.


 

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