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Topic: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3276 on: May 02, 2020, 08:15:43 AM »
I wouldn't but that's just me

I was brought up in a different time

not saying I'm right and anyone else is wrong

pride is not related to logic or intelligence
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3277 on: May 02, 2020, 08:26:01 AM »
That's a bit of good news.

Yesterday, I went to visit a friend who has probably days, not weeks, to live.  Parkinson's, not COVID.

On the way, I gassed up.  First gas I had bought since the 17th of March.  Where we shop for groceries, for every $50 in purchases, they give your store card a 3 cents/gallon credit at the local Quik Trip convenience store/gas stations.  I had 39 cents/gallon credit on my card, so I put 12.7 gallons of premium into my Boss 302 for $1.309/gallon.

Which was another bit of good news amidst the gloom.
Last week a station about 8 miles away for 3 days had it for 1.09(87 oct) and it wasn't 10% ethanol either
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3278 on: May 02, 2020, 08:34:06 AM »
Just stop.
Stop what?  Im just saying its gonna be hard for any minimum wage earner to do

Lets see I can return to my minimum wage job or I can just stay home and get more money by not working

As a kid I would have had a hard time making that decision
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3279 on: May 02, 2020, 08:41:49 AM »
As a kid, I would have an easy time with that.  You make well over MW as a trainee cashier at Wally World.  The market has largely made MW irrelevant today.  


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3280 on: May 02, 2020, 08:47:21 AM »
As a kid, I would have an easy time with that.  You make well over MW as a trainee cashier at Wally World.  The market has largely made MW irrelevant today. 


Not sure why you feel that way

Just about every pizza delivery person is min wage

Starting out at most fast food places is min wage

Its nice when a person can work their way up the salary ladder so

dont get me wrong.  Ive got all the admiration and respect for anyone willing

to start at the bottom and work their way up.  Thats what this country is all about
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3281 on: May 02, 2020, 08:59:12 AM »
McDonald's Restaurants Ltd. pays its employees an average of $9.95 an hour. Hourly pay at McDonald's Restaurants Ltd. ranges from an average of $7.85 to $14.05 an hour.Mar 30, 2020

My kids got jobs at Panera in 2006 and were making over MW back then, a dollar more.  I imagine in some rural areas folks doing fast food start at MW, it's their choice.  Most places in the country start people well above MW because they can't get workers otherwise.  the market sets the real MW.

I'd be OK with taking the highest MW in our history which was in 1969 I think, adjusting it for inflation and letting it be that wage, which I think is around $11/hour.  Then adjust for inflation annually and you're done, no more political pandering.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3282 on: May 02, 2020, 09:30:12 AM »
The Federal kicker is what puts this so far above their normal salary for some folks.  But it's going to run out in July, and possibly even before then.  

I''m not certain the folks that WOULD stay on UE even with viable jobs, are going to get the chance.  Businesses are failing at a high rate.  In many cases there won't be jobs to come back to, anyway.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3283 on: May 02, 2020, 09:33:10 AM »
The Federal kicker is what puts this so far above their normal salary for some folks.  But it's going to run out in July, and possibly even before then. 

I''m not certain the folks that WOULD stay on UE even with viable jobs, are going to get the chance.  Businesses are failing at a high rate.  In many cases there won't be jobs to come back to, anyway.
True but min wage workers will find it much easier to get jobs then higher wage earners in general
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3284 on: May 02, 2020, 09:35:30 AM »
Our economy could easily spiral out of control downwards despite all the money pumped into it.

There is a kind of critical mass of failures that generate more folks in distress that stop buying much of anything that leads to mroe failures of course etc.

Flooding the system with free money is a stop gap.  The stock market until the last 2 days was trying to see a positive outcome in this, but got cool feet.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3285 on: May 02, 2020, 09:40:08 AM »
Our economy could easily spiral out of control downwards despite all the money pumped into it.

There is a kind of critical mass of failures that generate more folks in distress that stop buying much of anything that leads to mroe failures of course etc.

Flooding the system with free money is a stop gap.  The stock market until the last 2 days was trying to see a positive outcome in this, but got cool feet.

IF we can successfully uncork this thing over the next 4-6 weeks, the market, and the economy, will come back in 12-18 months.  But the longer we delay now nationally, will get compounded on the back end, due to the exact "tipping point" kind of effect you're mentioning.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3286 on: May 02, 2020, 09:43:40 AM »
all its gonna take for this economy to take off is some positive news on the vaccine or miracle drug area

Im very positive about the idea that this could happen by fall

until then we need to just keep opening up where and when we can just to stay in practice

so we dont forget what its like to not be locked down
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3287 on: May 02, 2020, 09:46:59 AM »
The problem with any new miracle drug is the time required for testing.  The FDA rushed through remdesivir because it had been tested years ago and at least shown to be generally well tolerated.  Imagine someone concocts an  New Drug Entity  it would have zero safety profile.  Even if it works in accelerated clinicals, it would need a safety profile as well before approved for wide use.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3288 on: May 02, 2020, 10:14:03 AM »
If the minimum wage is set high enough to matter, it increases unemployment among the least-skilled and least-educated., the very people who most need--for their own good as well as society's--to get into the habit of working rather than relying on government programs.  The higher the minimum wage is set, the harder it is for such people to get that first job.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3289 on: May 02, 2020, 10:22:28 AM »
https://www.omaha.com/sports/college/ncaa-sets-nine-core-principles-to-aid-transition-from-quarantine-to-competition/article_c13f4d73-4ba5-5198-9c28-c4c944f84087.amp.html

As university presidents and conference commissioners debate when to reopen schools and sports facilities, the NCAA’s COVID-19 Advisory Panel announced nine “core principles” to safely transition to athletic competition.

The principles were compiled by NCAA Chief Medical Officer Brian Hainline, who urged people to remember there will not be a “single day of re-emergence into society.”
"Courage; Generosity; Fairness; Honor; In these are the true awards of manly sport."

 

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