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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3010 on: April 28, 2020, 08:25:20 AM »
Quote from: bwarbiany on April 27, 2020, 06:58:16 PM
I'm getting close to needing my second haircut from my wife... By this coming weekend it'll be necessary.
My wife tried to cut our son's hair.  He now wears a hat at all times...

...so, I'm just gonna wait a little longer. :)

5/18, is when they're supposed to allow salons/haircuts/etc.  
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3011 on: April 28, 2020, 08:43:55 AM »
I'm getting shaggy AF also, and I had mine cut just before all this S happened.

I decided a while back that if I could not express myself without profanity, I should get a larger vocabulary.  I think when I was younger, it seemed "cool" to cuss.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3012 on: April 28, 2020, 09:22:34 AM »
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/other/494979-model-predicts-higher-death-toll-in-us-amid-states-reopening

https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/494034-the-data-are-in-stop-the-panic-and-end-the-total-isolation

No matter what a governor does, he's going to be criticized either for killing a lot of people or over reacting.

A lot of what I have read mischaracterized what our governor actually has done.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3013 on: April 28, 2020, 09:39:45 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on April 28, 2020, 09:22:34 AM
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/other/494979-model-predicts-higher-death-toll-in-us-amid-states-reopening

https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/494034-the-data-are-in-stop-the-panic-and-end-the-total-isolation

No matter what a governor does, he's going to be criticized either for killing a lot of people or over reacting.

A lot of what I have read mischaracterized what our governor actually has done.
In short we can respect the virus but not run from it

Nobody knows including the stupid models what will happen when a state opens up with appropriate precautions

one thing is for sure we can not sustain being closed down so we have to make every effort to get back to normal

the question from all the naysayers should not be when to reopen but how to reopen

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3014 on: April 28, 2020, 09:58:51 AM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on April 28, 2020, 09:39:45 AM
Nobody knows including the stupid models what will happen when a state opens up with appropriate precautions
As I said a couple pages upthread, the IHME model is not my favorite. It seems much more "reactive" than "predictive". Which makes it more of a tracker than a model. 

But in common usage, it has become "the model". So it's what everyone is looking at...
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3015 on: April 28, 2020, 10:01:43 AM »
The biggest unknown now I think is degree of immunity conferred in the survivors.  If that is low to zero, there can be no end.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3016 on: April 28, 2020, 10:10:13 AM »
Rock and a hard place
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3017 on: April 28, 2020, 10:38:50 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on April 28, 2020, 10:01:43 AM
The biggest unknown now I think is degree of immunity conferred in the survivors.  If that is low to zero, there can be no end.


Good article on the subject: https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/04/27/1000569/how-long-are-people-immune-to-covid-19/
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3018 on: April 28, 2020, 10:50:32 AM »
Man, potential for reinfection within 6 months/2x per year is... tough to think about.

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« Reply #3019 on: April 28, 2020, 10:50:56 AM »
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3020 on: April 28, 2020, 10:54:50 AM »
I've seen several reports that immunity is either short or limited or nonexistent.  I can't say they are true of course, the studies could be flawed.

That would of course be really bad news for the aged and otherwise compromised.

The vaccine story is also confusing, to me.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3021 on: April 28, 2020, 11:00:59 AM »
does anyone know what if any immunity one gets after having the flu
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3022 on: April 28, 2020, 11:06:00 AM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on April 28, 2020, 11:00:59 AM
does anyone know what if any immunity one gets after having the flu

From what I've read, you get immunity for a year or three to that specific type of flu, which is why the vaccine is reasonably effective.

Influenza types bounce around each year so they use a different vaccine each year to manage the 2-3-4 most prevalent types detected in China early in the year.

If they guess right, the vaccine works pretty well.

But if you come down with H1N1 and later are infected with H3N2, you will get sick.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/vaccines-work/vaccineeffect.htm
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #3023 on: April 28, 2020, 11:15:39 AM »
I'll worry about getting it a 2nd time after dealing with it the 1st
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