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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2506 on: April 22, 2020, 03:35:36 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on April 22, 2020, 03:33:13 PM
Coronavirus Stream of Unconsciousness.
Yes, let's get back to where the break-even point is on the sliding scale of lives vs economy.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2507 on: April 22, 2020, 03:36:14 PM »
Coal miners have it good, racism isn't a thing, and I'm an arrogant turd.  I think we all agree.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2508 on: April 22, 2020, 03:41:43 PM »
OAM if coal mining was safe with no disease attached to it would you feel differently
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2509 on: April 22, 2020, 03:43:09 PM »
Per today's briefing, U of Minnesota and Mayo Clinic (med school, CSE, CBS, and College of Design) getting things configured so that they can pump through 20K tests, both antibody and molecular, per day. Damn good work from them. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2510 on: April 22, 2020, 03:46:13 PM »
Quote from: GopherRock on April 22, 2020, 03:43:09 PM
Per today's briefing, U of Minnesota and Mayo Clinic (med school, CSE, CBS, and College of Design) getting things configured so that they can pump through 20K tests, both antibody and molecular, per day. Damn good work from them.
This means I might have to be nice to Minnesota. I don't approve.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2511 on: April 22, 2020, 03:47:20 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on April 22, 2020, 03:28:27 PM
What you’re seeing in neighborhoods like that are the effects of high paying, low skill manual labor manufacturing jobs being gutted and entire industries collapsing in a chain reaction. Detroit has under 700,000 residents today, it is one of the poorest cities in the country, and looks like a literal war zone. In the 1960’s it was a city of almost 2 million residents and the richest city in the entire world. That’s why Detroit became a major hub for black people- they were able to flee the south and head north and get good paying jobs in manufacturing that didn’t require skill. And other entire industries and economies built up around the manufacturing jobs. See: Motown, 1950s/60s Detroit.

All of the out-sourcing and capital flight with the financialization of the US economy hurt these people the most. A corrupt, morally bankrupt political class of Democrats- which they shockingly continue to vote for- did them in. All of this has very little to do with race. That’s just pure and utter bullshit and side-tracking and avoiding all of the many the real problems that exist.
For the Big 3 in Detroit, I think a bigger difference is a bloated cost model [incl union labor agreements], complacency about product quality, belief that a "buy American" model would outcompete superior and/or less expensive foreign products, etc. 

It's not like nobody assembles cars in the US... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_automotive_assembly_plants_in_the_United_States
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2512 on: April 22, 2020, 03:52:11 PM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on April 22, 2020, 03:41:43 PM
OAM if coal mining was safe with no disease attached to it would you feel differently
I don't know.  Maybe.  It's less about how bad the job is and more about the expiration date of it.  
I mean, yeah, if it's a crummy job AND you get cancer from it, that's about as bad as it gets, right?  But I hadn't really lumped in that part of their lives during this whole, long discussion, have I?  
So I guess not.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2513 on: April 22, 2020, 04:04:36 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on April 22, 2020, 03:12:16 PM
Actually, I long for differing opinions backed up by evidence and a justification exceeding the anecdotal.  But unfortunately, it's rare.
You said it evidence not opinion,just remember that,I've got it book marked
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2514 on: April 22, 2020, 04:07:39 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on April 22, 2020, 03:35:36 PM
Yes, let's get back to where the break-even point is on the sliding scale of lives vs economy.
Yeah. Let’s destroy people’s lives, small businesses, jobs, and livelihoods over a disease that the mounting evidence is starting to show- isn’t that deadly. Range is 0.1% to 0.3%. At worst case scenario .3% fatal. Basically right in line with a seasonal flu. But yeah let’s send the world into a depression that would rival the Great Depression! You don’t see how that would ruin more lives than this virus? If you can’t, we’ll you’re an idiot.

Sweden got this thing right. The rest of the world got it dead wrong.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2515 on: April 22, 2020, 04:09:30 PM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on April 22, 2020, 04:04:36 PM
You said it evidence not opinion,just remember that,I've got it book marked
I said opinion backed by evidence.  I know you want your "gotcha!" moment, but you're weirding me out.  
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2516 on: April 22, 2020, 04:10:45 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on April 22, 2020, 04:07:39 PM
Yeah. Let’s destroy people’s lives, small businesses, jobs, and livelihoods over a disease that the mounting evidence is starting to show- isn’t that deadly. Range is 0.1% to 0.3%. At worst case scenario .3% fatal. Basically right in line with a seasonal flu. But yeah let’s send the world into a depression that would rival the Great Depression! You don’t see how that would ruin more lives than this virus? If you can’t, we’ll you’re an idiot.

Sweden got this thing right. The rest of the world got it dead wrong.
Okay, so in whatever city you live in, you'll sacrifice your family so that the businesses can open up.  Got it.
Now, if you live in a big city, we might need to off your coworkers and neighbors, we'll see.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2517 on: April 22, 2020, 04:12:20 PM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on April 22, 2020, 02:29:08 PM
There's a snarky thing I want to write, but it would lead down the road to me getting cussed out again, so I shall refrain.
@#!%$^&*ing go for it :character0029:,not like you have to run away on a your bad wheel.Out with it Blutarsky
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2518 on: April 22, 2020, 04:14:25 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on April 22, 2020, 04:10:45 PM
Okay, so in whatever city you live in, you'll sacrifice your family so that the businesses can open up.  Got it.
Maybe we'll throw a few coal miners in there that'll cheer you up
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2519 on: April 22, 2020, 04:17:47 PM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on April 22, 2020, 04:14:25 PM
Maybe we'll throw a few coal miners in there that'll cheer you up
So I want them dead because I want better for them and don't understand their perceived helplessness?  
Yeah, that makes sense. I love how this whole thing turned into my hating coal miners.  Literally the opposite of what sparked the discussion in the first place.
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