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Topic: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2422 on: April 21, 2020, 03:14:15 PM »
Baxter is at $75/day on per diem, and most of their peers are right there. Ever try to eat in SF, NY, Vegas for $75?
Nearly impossible in SF or NYC- have to be #1 and #2 most over-priced cities for anything at all in the entire US. Can be done in Vegas, stay away from the strip.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2423 on: April 21, 2020, 03:15:15 PM »
I always stay away from the Strip

even when I staying at the Wynn
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2424 on: April 21, 2020, 03:16:57 PM »
When I'm traveling alone, it's easy. When you travel with a wife/girlfriend or a family, it's harder.

I won't pay for seat selection unless I can get it cheap if I'm alone. But if you're traveling as a group, sometimes it's necessary.

Same thing. If you're traveling with a group or family, you may need to rent something larger. If not, there's not much point to renting something "fancy".

Well, that's your fault for traveling with family, lol.
I hate even just going to the store with my friends with young kids.  I love kids, but good god, I could be in and out and done before they even enter the store.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2425 on: April 21, 2020, 03:21:57 PM »
  The wife is not a fan of cheap motels, at all.

I have to keep up appearances of course.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2426 on: April 21, 2020, 03:25:25 PM »
We stayed on business wherever "they" put us, which usually was two notches above where I would have booked.  I recall staying at the Mondrian in LA a few times and having breakfast on my balcony overlooking the city, nice memory indeed.

I traveled with one guy a few times would would get a salad at "Kroger" and a pricey bottle of wine and expense it.

Nobody ever checked anything that I knew of.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2427 on: April 21, 2020, 03:34:59 PM »
back in the 80s working for the meat packer, I was allowed $4/breakfast, 5/lunch, and $11 for supper.

some in accounting would allow me $20/day, others wouldn't

yes, we would go to the butcher shop and purchase nice steaks and grill them in the back of the Holiday Inn - tough to expense the 12-packs
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2428 on: April 21, 2020, 04:03:25 PM »
The few times I've eaten on the company dime, I haven't changed what I'd ordinarily do.  I guess I'm boring.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2429 on: April 21, 2020, 04:05:39 PM »
The few times I've eaten on the company dime, I haven't changed what I'd ordinarily do.  I guess I'm boring.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2430 on: April 21, 2020, 04:08:17 PM »
I used to interview students at Ohio State two days in a row.  It was quite tiring, and one night of that I'd dine at the Refectory.

I deserved it.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2431 on: April 21, 2020, 04:56:24 PM »
The few times I've eaten on the company dime, I haven't changed what I'd ordinarily do.  I guess I'm boring.
Neither have I...

...but I've been known to eat pretty well on my own dime ;-) 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2432 on: April 21, 2020, 05:00:21 PM »
I always had respect for the company dollar. Especially since 2001.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2433 on: April 21, 2020, 05:08:37 PM »
I should point out that I try to keep my meals within the normal limit, and almost entirely am successful do so. When my meal cost exceeds the limit, I only expense the per diem and consider overrun to be a personal expense rather than trying to justify the overrun. 

And I usually don't eat breakfast, and sometimes skip lunch, so since we're reimbursed based on ACTUAL expenses rather just given a specific amount per meal whether we use it or not, that ends up being savings to the company.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2434 on: April 21, 2020, 06:09:45 PM »
I usually got free breakfast at the hotel.  We had to have a receipt for a meal over $25, and that was generous.  And if you provided a receipt your boss just signed it without looking.  I don't think I ever had a boss review my expense report at all.

We had to have separate FF accounts for company travel, and when that program ended I had enough miles for a first class RT to Europe.  The company just cancelled the account, Delta couldn't find it.  


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2435 on: April 21, 2020, 06:39:09 PM »
Well, taking China out of it for a second, I think you can look at the airlines.

Once pricing was all transparent and easily comparable on the internet, "ticket price" became all that anyone cared about. With the exception of frequent business travelers who had loyalty based on certain levels of status due to frequent flyer miles, everyone else picked the cheapest seat they could find.

What happened? Predictably, service went out the window. Airlines started doing everything they could to get the "internet number" as low as possible, nickle-and-diming travelers for EVERY little additional thing that they could... Want to check a bag? Pay up, sucka. Want to select your seat? Pay up, sucka. Want to carry-on a bag (for some)? Pay up, sucka. For a while it was only the budget airlines that were charging for things like selecting a seat, but now even the "flagship" airlines in this country are doing it.

As consumers, people complain about this but at the same time they'd sit on the wing of the aircraft if it would save $5/ticket, so again it's an economic "revealed preference" thing.

So yeah, back in the old days you had to call or go to a store to find out how much something cost, and it was damn near impossible to comparison shop unless you had a LOT of time on your hands to go looking around multiple places. Now a quick perusal of the internet will let you know what that item costs anywhere and everywhere you're looking for it, and barring other factors usually the decision is made on item price and/or shipping costs.
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