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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2254 on: April 18, 2020, 09:35:52 PM »
Back to the ostensible topic of this thread, the University of Chicago Medical Center is conducting a clinical trial with the drug remdesivir, and is having good success so far.

https://www.statnews.com/2020/04/16/early-peek-at-data-on-gilead-coronavirus-drug-suggests-patients-are-responding-to-treatment/
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2255 on: April 18, 2020, 09:50:01 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on April 18, 2020, 08:45:25 PM
No, just no.
His coverage - which he has garnered and sought out, mind you - has mirrored his words and actions.  From the day he threw his hat in the ring, his words and actions has earned him all the criticism in the world.  But he EARNED it.  It has zero to do with the idea of a fair shake - the coverage is what it is.  They didn't change his words.  They haven't altered his actions. 
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You don't have to hate him to find him absurd, incompetent, and a mental/emotional child.  I don't have to invent anything, skew anything, or produce any inordinate dislike for him, merely cite his words and actions.  He's a garbage human being.  He is SOLELY self-serving.  He wouldn't piss on a burning poor person or brown person to save their life.  He is ill-prepared in every scope of the job.  He's the most explicit hypocrite I've ever witnessed.  These are truths, and the more you observe him, the more true they become. 
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His supporters/defenders keep conjuring this fantasy that he's been treated unfairly.  Why on earth does he expect to be treated well?  Why would any person outputting the rubbish he does expect anything positive coming back at them?  This idea that are unfairly against him is nuts.  People are against him because he's awful.
Wow.  I guess you are entitled to your opinion. for the record I disagree with just about every you said. And I don’t even like him.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2256 on: April 18, 2020, 09:57:49 PM »
And separately, I feel like the left is the most hypocritical, self serving, divisive and racist group of my lifetime. The majority of the media not only included but central to those themes.  

I know- You’re going to tell me that it’s OK or to spend $35 million in three years trying to pin fantasy crimes on him, or for an elected official to call for his assassination, or someone to carry around photographs of his severed head.  

There are millions who disagree with me on that and millions that agree.  The nature of our two party system I guess.  

Lastly I find it almost humorous that he gets blamed for the polarization in divide in this country as if he was the cause. Missing is the obvious - that he is not the cause but the effect of many years of political correctness gone way too far.  That’s how somebody outside of the established political arena gets elected. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2257 on: April 18, 2020, 09:59:33 PM »
Quote from: CWSooner on April 18, 2020, 09:35:52 PM
Back to the ostensible topic of this thread, the University of Chicago Medical Center is conducting a clinical trial with the drug remdesivir, and is having good success so far.

https://www.statnews.com/2020/04/16/early-peek-at-data-on-gilead-coronavirus-drug-suggests-patients-are-responding-to-treatment/
Oh shit. Success.  That won’t sit well with some of the media.  No- not at all.  
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2258 on: April 18, 2020, 10:08:24 PM »
Quote from: Honestbuckeye on April 18, 2020, 09:50:01 PM
Wow.  I guess you are entitled to your opinion. for the record I disagree with just about every you said. And I don’t even like him.
I fully support your disagreeing with me.  
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2259 on: April 18, 2020, 10:10:48 PM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on April 18, 2020, 08:57:18 PM
One of the most delightful things in life will be watching people like OAM tear themselves apart with grief

when Trump wins another 4 years as our President
That's the wrong emotion.  I'd feel apathy.  We deserve whoever we pick.  And I'd have even less respect for the masses than I do now...if that's possible.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2260 on: April 18, 2020, 10:11:35 PM »
Quote from: Honestbuckeye on April 18, 2020, 09:57:49 PM
Lastly I find it almost humorous that he gets blamed for the polarization in divide in this country as if he was the cause. Missing is the obvious - that he is not the cause but the effect of many years of political correctness gone way too far.  That’s how somebody outside of the established political arena gets elected.
This.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2261 on: April 18, 2020, 10:19:51 PM »
May I ask you OAF,  what do you think of his Jan 31 ban on travel in from China? 

Was it wrong or right?  Was it racist or justified?

Was there any Democrat in high office in this country, that you are aware of, who suggested that or any other tactic/strategy/policy related to COVID at or before that time?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2262 on: April 18, 2020, 10:36:06 PM »
Quote from: Honestbuckeye on April 18, 2020, 10:19:51 PM
May I ask you OAF,  what do you think of his Jan 31 ban on travel in from China?

Was it wrong or right?  Was it racist or justified?

Was there any Democrat in high office in this country, that you are aware of, who suggested that or any other tactic/strategy/policy related to COVID at or before that time?
I think the travel ban was cautious, which made it prudent. 
Please stop with the "yeah, but" crap.  It doesn't matter if a Dem was more on top of things than Trump.  They weren't receiving the same info about the virus in the early weeks about it as he was.  I'm not making any leap here, I'm merely saying no Dems had the same info as Trump did early on.  AND NONE OF THEM ARE THE PRESIDENT.
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If Trump (or anybody) slashes my tires so I can't drive, I don't care if someone else also broke my tail light.  Genuine, intelligent discussion and debate is almost constantly derailed by this "yeah, but" garbage.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2263 on: April 18, 2020, 10:37:32 PM »
Quote from: Honestbuckeye on April 18, 2020, 09:57:49 PM
And separately, I feel like the left is the most hypocritical, self serving, divisive and racist group of my lifetime.
Bud you need to read a book
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2264 on: April 18, 2020, 10:39:43 PM »
How dare you suggest such a thing!  :57:
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The far left is a group I'd describe as cannibalistic.  Not racist.  There's no such thing as being woke enough.  And when stupid people feel emboldened to act, they - you guessed it - act stupidly.  That's how you get antifa.  Is that still a thing?  Meh.
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And falling back on identity politics isn't racist.  It's lazy.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2265 on: April 18, 2020, 10:44:13 PM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on April 18, 2020, 10:37:32 PM
Bud you need to read a book
Yes. Me and at least 60 million people


but we know- the way you think is correct and those of us who feel different are just dumb and uneducated. We have been told that by you and XiNN and MSNBC since you called anyone who has a different opinion than you -deplorable. 

unfortunately that won’t solve the differences. Most of the things we disagree on are too important to us to not stand for. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2266 on: April 18, 2020, 10:48:23 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on April 18, 2020, 10:36:06 PM
I think the travel ban was cautious, which made it prudent. 
Please stop with the "yeah, but" crap.  It doesn't matter if a Dem was more on top of things than Trump.  They weren't receiving the same info about the virus in the early weeks about it as he was.  I'm not making any leap here, I'm merely saying no Dems had the same info as Trump did early on.  AND NONE OF THEM ARE THE PRESIDENT.
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If Trump (or anybody) slashes my tires so I can't drive, I don't care if someone else also broke my tail light.  Genuine, intelligent discussion and debate is almost constantly derailed by this "yeah, but" garbage.
You lost me with your “yeah But”. Not sure where you got that from my post. 
I just asked a few simple questions.  Thought maybe you could have a good constructive dialogue.  Clearly not. 
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« Reply #2267 on: April 18, 2020, 10:51:07 PM »
For me, the only deplorables are the "religious right" who proudly stand by their man in Trump.  THAT is truly disgusting.  It's literally indefensible.  There are certain things they'd cross a candidate off their lists for being guilty of, and Trump is guilty of them all...and yet they swoon.  It's shameful.
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