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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2226 on: April 18, 2020, 02:41:22 PM »

You stated a little temporary safety.This is not that,those numbers are in the last month.That's not good but could be a lot worse.As we know now how many other illnesses are being shoehorned in here?And this was in March different circumstances,still she didn't test positive.No one said this isn't a thing but spreading false info at that time is hogwash - you're right
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2227 on: April 18, 2020, 02:49:37 PM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on April 18, 2020, 02:37:23 PM
Ok fine they have had over 10 cases same question

were these folks visited by the local police
Actually they have 3, but it matters not. I doubt the others were visited.


This whole thing smells funny to me.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2228 on: April 18, 2020, 02:56:28 PM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on April 18, 2020, 02:33:04 PM
I went off the article you posted


Amyiah Cohoon, 16, is a student at Westfield Area High School in Westfield, Wisconsin. According to this lawsuit , she and schoolmates went to Disney World and Universal Studios in Florida for a spring break trip in early March, right as the coronavirus was beginning to spread and businesses began to shut down. She and her classmates canceled the trip early and returned home.

There is alot of gray area,if she is talking to friends inprivate that's one thing if she's on a community board AFTER she tested negative - dick move.But there were no confirmed cases at that time.And the Sheriff shouldn't threaten anyone - I'm on board with that.Things could have gotten worse though.There are layer in this story that could have unfolded differently.had things ramped up(the sheriff couldn't know at that time)and we don't know what the hospital or law enforcement were up against at the time.Suffice to say it wasn't another day at the office.So maybe mom and dad could play parents and not friend.A lot of ERs were inundated with everything,a lot of ill people neededing procedures or attention were put on hold in anticipation of getting staem rolled.This isn't a Rodney King situation
After testing negative, she wrote "I am finally home after being hospitalized for a day and a half. I am still on breathing treatment but have beaten the coronavirus. Stay home and be safe.”

And by the time she was going to the hospital the first time, this thread was 33 pages long and Wisconsin was nine days removed from the governor ordering the closing of schools. 

So if by that point she was gonna start a panic, the people getting panicked were either dangerously not paying attention or dangerously thinking it wouldn't impact their community. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2229 on: April 18, 2020, 02:59:00 PM »
It smells like "guilty until proven innocent."
Her failure to say "suspected" in front of "COVID-19" does not at all warrant the full might of the Oxford, WI, law enforcement to smash her down.  So many better ways to have handled it.  How about the mayor/county commissioner making a public announcement to clarify that point instead of sending the sheriff's goon deputy to make threats?
Our right to free speech is not there so that we can say, "God bless America, mom, and apple pie."  It is to protect our right to say unpopular things, and law enforcement is supposed to protect that right especially when the mob doesn't like what's being said, NOT to be the mob's enforcement arm.
If martial law had been declared, it might be a different matter.  But it hadn't been, so it wasn't.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2230 on: April 18, 2020, 03:00:14 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on April 18, 2020, 12:58:10 PM
My point is that this is not a member of the influenza family.  To the extent it is similar to the corona family, it may not mutate as much as influenza virus, but we do not know for sure.  A vaccine can provide herd immunity without people getting sick.
Note as well we don't have a successful vaccine for SARS, MERS, or any of the common colds caused by Corona virii.

Maybe this will be different? 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2231 on: April 18, 2020, 03:03:52 PM »
I don't think we will see a vaccine.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2232 on: April 18, 2020, 03:15:39 PM »
J&J is in clinical trials with one effort already. The MERS/SARS thing kind of went away and never was that much here.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2020-04-17/coronavirus-vaccine-ian-frazer/12146616

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2233 on: April 18, 2020, 03:24:11 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on April 18, 2020, 03:03:52 PM
I don't think we will see a vaccine.
Maybe or maybe not.  It doesn't really matter to be honest, because at its earliest, it's still so far away it can't stop the virus from running its course.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2234 on: April 18, 2020, 03:25:55 PM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on April 18, 2020, 02:56:28 PM
After testing negative, she wrote "I am finally home after being hospitalized for a day and a half. I am still on breathing treatment but have beaten the coronavirus. Stay home and be safe.”

And by the time she was going to the hospital the first time, this thread was 33 pages long and Wisconsin was nine days removed from the governor ordering the closing of schools.

So if by that point she was gonna start a panic, the people getting panicked were either dangerously not paying attention or dangerously thinking it wouldn't impact their community.
WHAT,I don't keep a diary timeline but 4 weeks ago if you walked into Stores/groceries around here you couldn't get bleach,alcohol,hydrogen peroxide,paper products,rubber gloves,masks along with many more staples.You don't think people were starting to panic?I don't blame themYour timelines don't coincide with what i remember


Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar said the decision stemmed from “the uniform recommendations of the career public health officials here at HHS.”Azar declared a public health emergency for the novel coronavirus on Jan. 31, and announced the travel restrictions to and from China, effective Feb. 2.

So that story broke long before the governor ordered the closing of schools.The Feds were adressing this at a higher level and earlier.Didn't say she started a panic simply said she could help one along and was inaccurate as she didnot test positive.I do not know the context in which she posted.If it harmless tweet/post between friends then shame on the sheriff.If she was  on a communty board saying such then that is a different story.You have quoted one post.How many more did she post?Where any deleted,if so when - see there is alot more here.I have a hard time believing the County Sheriff just randomely picked her out and gave her the what for.If that is the case then i hope they do sue and win.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2235 on: April 18, 2020, 04:07:31 PM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on April 18, 2020, 03:25:55 PM
WHAT,I don't keep a diary timeline but 4 weeks ago if you walked into Stores/groceries around here you couldn't get bleach,alcohol,hydrogen peroxide,paper products,rubber gloves,masks along with many more staples.You don't think people were starting to panic?I don't blame themYour timelines don't coincide with what i remember


Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar said the decision stemmed from “the uniform recommendations of the career public health officials here at HHS.”Azar declared a public health emergency for the novel coronavirus on Jan. 31, and announced the travel restrictions to and from China, effective Feb. 2.

So that story broke long before the governor ordered the closing of schools.The Feds were adressing this at a higher level and earlier.Didn't say she started a panic simply said she could help one along and was inaccurate as she didnot test positive.I do not know the context in which she posted.If it harmless tweet/post between friends then shame on the sheriff.If she was  on a communty board saying such then that is a different story.You have quoted one post.How many more did she post?Where any deleted,if so when - see there is alot more here.I have a hard time believing the County Sheriff just randomely picked her out and gave her the what for.If that is the case then i hope they do sue and win.
It was an instagram post on her own account. There were 2-3 offending posts between March 22-25. That would have been well past the point you mentioned

(I think the school called the sheriff for some reason)
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2236 on: April 18, 2020, 04:18:09 PM »
Lot more I certainly don't know,not sure i mentioned specific points.Just that at that time the populations in general seemed on edge.I hope it ends well and lessons are learned.And if she is right then by all means sue him/them
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2237 on: April 18, 2020, 04:30:03 PM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on April 18, 2020, 04:18:09 PM
Lot more I certainly don't know,not sure i mentioned specific points.Just that at that time the populations in general seemed on edge.I hope it ends well and lessons are learned.And if she is right then by all means sue him/them
had that happened to my daughter I probably would have called the FBI
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2238 on: April 18, 2020, 04:38:59 PM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on April 18, 2020, 04:30:03 PM
had that happened to my daughter I probably would have called the FBI
If it happened exactly like that i would have dialed for you
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2239 on: April 18, 2020, 04:42:58 PM »
I think it was bad judgement (16, duh) to post, and I think it was bad judgement for the sheriff to threaten arrest.

A simple "knock it off and here's why" would have been the way to go.
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