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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1638 on: April 10, 2020, 10:21:03 AM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on April 10, 2020, 09:30:12 AM
we shut down the worlds most successful economy based on these models

what bothers me more then that is all the lefty folks saying we need to be shut down for at least a year

(after the election)

what a crock
Yeah, your bubble invents these "lefty folks" - there is no general consensus to shut down for a year.  Stop with the strawmam argument, please.  
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1639 on: April 10, 2020, 10:21:40 AM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on April 10, 2020, 09:13:07 AM
Kinda makes you wonder about all those climate change models predicting gloom and doom
No, not at all.  They're not the same group of scientists, at all.   You realize you don't HAVE to be that anti-intelligence stereotype, right?  You're allowed to accept what EXPERTS say.  You don't have to distrust science.  You know, SCIENCE, that process without which your phone wouldn't work, planes wouldn't fly, and the medications you take wouldn't exist.
But I guess they're all crazy liberals out to get us!
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1640 on: April 10, 2020, 10:29:21 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on April 10, 2020, 10:21:03 AM
Yeah, your bubble invents these "lefty folks" - there is no general consensus to shut down for a year.  Stop with the strawmam argument, please. 
Oh please spare me

I could point out at least 10 articles from left bent folks supporting the economy needing to be shut down at least a year

no straw man here just reality

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1641 on: April 10, 2020, 10:30:52 AM »
10 out of how many?  
If you're only going to argue against the most radical minority of the 'other side', you'll find yourself out of the actual conversation every time.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1642 on: April 10, 2020, 10:31:27 AM »
Quote from: bwarbiany on April 10, 2020, 10:13:46 AM
Clearly that's bad, but at least it's a V and not a U.
That's the hope anyway.

That Q2 revision from -25% (which would already be historically bad) to -40% (which is unfreakingbelievably bad) is eye-opening.  And I don't see much reason to doubt it, what I'm seeing pretty much confirms it.

If Q4CY20 ends up being only 7% down YoY that would be almost a miracle, but my fingers are certainly crossed.

I think full recovery is 18 months out, IF we start uncorking the SIP restrictions by the end of April. For each month beyond that we stay in SIP mode, I think we push out recovery by an additional 2-3 months.

And if SIP remains through the summer, I think we're in third-world starvation and violent uprising situation.  But I also highly doubt it would come to that.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1643 on: April 10, 2020, 10:32:50 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on April 10, 2020, 10:21:40 AM
No, not at all.  They're not the same group of scientists, at all.  You realize you don't HAVE to be that anti-intelligence stereotype, right?  You're allowed to accept what EXPERTS say.  You don't have to distrust science.  You know, SCIENCE, that process without which your phone wouldn't work, planes wouldn't fly, and the medications you take wouldn't exist.
But I guess they're all crazy liberals out to get us!
Well, science maybe figured out electromagnetic waves, and the Bernoulli principle, but it's engineers who make sure your phone works and that airplanes don't fall out of the sky.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1644 on: April 10, 2020, 10:34:21 AM »
No politics.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1645 on: April 10, 2020, 10:35:25 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on April 10, 2020, 10:21:40 AM
No, not at all.  They're not the same group of scientists, at all.  You realize you don't HAVE to be that anti-intelligence stereotype, right?  You're allowed to accept what EXPERTS say.  You don't have to distrust science.  You know, SCIENCE, that process without which your phone wouldn't work, planes wouldn't fly, and the medications you take wouldn't exist.
But I guess they're all crazy liberals out to get us!
so why isnt New York under water as was predicted over the last decade

Dont get me wrong I believe in climate change

Climate change is real

It just isnt caused by man

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1646 on: April 10, 2020, 10:38:05 AM »
I don't believe any scientists predicted NYC would be "under water" by now.  A LOT of what we read and hear is uttered not by scientists but by others who misinterpret what they really said, which usually includes words like "COULD" in the predictions.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1647 on: April 10, 2020, 10:38:58 AM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on April 10, 2020, 10:35:25 AM
so why isnt New York under water as was predicted over the last decade

Dont get me wrong I believe in climate change

Climate change is real

It just isnt caused by man


Again, only a radical would have predicted NY being under water in the time frame of 10 years.  It's nonsense.  
If you're claiming humanity hasn't exacerbated climate change, you'll have to support that with evidence.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1648 on: April 10, 2020, 10:39:57 AM »
Someone here doesn't understand he's the victim of click-bait disguised as "crap the other side believes and is pushing as their agenda that you must fear and fight against!"
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1649 on: April 10, 2020, 10:40:03 AM »
Quote from: bwarbiany on April 10, 2020, 10:32:50 AM
Well, science maybe figured out electromagnetic waves, and the Bernoulli, but it's engineers who make sure your phone works and that airplanes don't fall out of the sky.
Amen brutha.

Stoopid scientists always trying to take all the credit.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1650 on: April 10, 2020, 10:40:40 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on April 10, 2020, 10:30:52 AM
10 out of how many? 
If you're only going to argue against the most radical minority of the 'other side', you'll find yourself out of the actual conversation every time.
glad you feel that way 

Ill remind you of your view when we attempt to open up the economy and catch hell from these minority groups
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #1651 on: April 10, 2020, 10:42:25 AM »
Hey guys, please take the climate change discussion to the climate thread.

Also, lh320-- you started with the political mudslinging.  Nobody around here wants to see that.  If you really want to discuss politics, there's an open forum down there at the bottom of the page, where I'm sure the natives would welcome you with open arms.

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