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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7812 on: August 04, 2020, 05:09:36 PM »
8% had reactions that required hospitalization? I'd like a little more info on what that was... Hoping it was just overwhelming caution since it's a new trial, and not extremely severe reactions.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7813 on: August 04, 2020, 05:17:36 PM »
Yesterday was the first day in nearly a month that the national daily deaths were lower than the number 7 days prior. Mon Jul 27 was 597, and Monday Apr 3 was 567. With the exception of one Tuesday in mid-July, every other week has seen consistent increases.

Hopefully this holds the rest of the week. The 7-day moving average of cases is down more than 10% from its peak, so hopefully that means we're on a downslope for a while.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7814 on: August 04, 2020, 05:23:49 PM »
8% had reactions that required hospitalization? I'd like a little more info on what that was... Hoping it was just overwhelming caution since it's a new trial, and not extremely severe reactions.
8% is higher than are hospitalized by COVID
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7815 on: August 04, 2020, 05:35:38 PM »
fine, Entropy wasn't vacationing in big cities
who the fuh vacations in Detroit? Lmao.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7816 on: August 04, 2020, 05:43:20 PM »
not Husker fans
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7817 on: August 04, 2020, 05:50:43 PM »
8% is higher than are hospitalized by COVID
Exactly. On the bright side, there were no deaths, but everyone in the trial was 18 to 59 years old, and it was only 101 given the true [rather than control] shot. So it might not be a large enough sample size.

That said, a vaccine trial, I'm sure, has an insane level of control over the participants. So it's possible that those 8 who were hospitalized didn't even have a severe enough reaction that any of us would go beyond urgent care at worst for it. But given that it was a new vaccine trial, maybe even mild responses warranted a hospital stay for observation in case something worse happened (which per the story, didn't). 

So I'm not saying 8% hospitalization is anywhere near as bad of a red flag as it sounds. I just want more information. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7818 on: August 04, 2020, 05:55:55 PM »
Antibiotics through IV today to determine if it is bacterial or viral. ( they think Bacterial)

They predict improvement in 24-36 hours. 
Good luck!  And it illustrates a problem coming our way, which is how the traditional cold and flu season is going to wreck havoc on normal day to day operations.  

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7819 on: August 04, 2020, 06:27:26 PM »
Good luck!  And it illustrates a problem coming our way, which is how the traditional cold and flu season is going to wreck havoc on normal day to day operations. 
Not sure I necessarily agree... I think our cold and flu season is going to be more mild than it perhaps has nearly ever been.

We're doing pretty unprecedented things in this country to mitigate COVID.

  • Most companies which can support WFH are continuing to do so. This which aren't are taking precautions against COVID they never did for the flu.
  • We're all wearing masks, physically distancing, and trying to keep apart due to COVID.
  • The little walking petri dishes we call children are mostly not going back to in-person schooling, at least so far.
  • The most vulnerable population to the flu, which happens to be the most vulnerable population to COVID, is trying to avoid COVID.

Given that COVID is still widely believed to be more transmissible than the flu, all the things we're doing to restrain COVID transmission should work even more effectively on the flu.

So I think we're going to see the weakest flu season we've seen in the last decade, by far. 


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7820 on: August 04, 2020, 06:38:37 PM »
Yeah, it won't be a traditional flu season almost certainly, though there always is a chance we get blindsided with something not in the vaccine.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7821 on: August 04, 2020, 06:42:04 PM »
who the fuh vacations in Detroit? Lmao.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7822 on: August 04, 2020, 06:43:17 PM »
Good luck!  And it illustrates a problem coming our way, which is how the traditional cold and flu season is going to wreck havoc on normal day to day operations. 
Covid has wiped out a large % of the population that would be most susceptible to dying from the (coming) flu.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7823 on: August 04, 2020, 06:44:32 PM »
https://www.ajc.com/news/coronavirus-georgia-covid-dashboard/jvoLBozRtBSVSNQDDAuZxH/

Starting to turn down in GA, just in time too.  If this is because "we" recently got religion, it should keep coming down to some point and then go back up again.
Don't worry, GA will be a hotspot again in about 3 weeks.  Zero social distancing going on in newly-opened schools there (not all, but plenty of visual evidence).
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7824 on: August 04, 2020, 06:47:32 PM »
The US is by far the best country in the world. Go find us a better one. Good luck.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #7825 on: August 04, 2020, 06:52:32 PM »
Covid has wiped out a large % of the population that would be most susceptible to dying from the (coming) flu.
No, not a large % at all. There's something like 52M people in the US who are 65 or older. We've had ~160K COVID deaths and if you assume 80% are in the 65 and over crowd, that's 128K deaths.

That accounts to 0.25% of the 65-and-older cohort in our society. 

I don't want to get into cases because I doubt our ~5M cases are equally distributed across age groups. It wouldn't surprise me at all if our cases actually skew much younger than flu cases because it's the young people going out and being dumb these days while the older people hunker down more. 

So there is still a HUGE proportion of people still alive who are vulnerable to the flu. And it will be COVID mitigation that protects them from the flu even more effectively than it protects them from COVID.

 

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