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Topic: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas

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Cincydawg

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16576 on: December 06, 2021, 01:27:00 PM »
Sure, it makes some news, but I personally didn't see marked exaggeration.  It was labeled a variant of concern and we didn't know how bad it could be.

I don't have a problem with how I saw it reported.  Maybe you have an example of something egregious?

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16577 on: December 06, 2021, 01:38:48 PM »
Sure, it makes some news, but I personally didn't see marked exaggeration.  It was labeled a variant of concern and we didn't know how bad it could be.

I don't have a problem with how I saw it reported.  Maybe you have an example of something egregious?
I think at the beginning it looked like it spreads like wildfire, and the concern was that with ~2x the number of spike protein mutations compared to Delta, that it would render our immunity (whether vaccine or natural) ineffective.

I think the reporting wasn't exactly "the end is nigh!!!" level, but it was definitely alarmist about the potential implications of the above. 

Remember that three things would ABSOLUTELY warrant quite alarmist reporting, if all three were true:

  • Omicron spreads much more quickly and effectively than Delta.
  • Omicron significantly evades our natural- and/or vaccine-derived immunity. 
  • Omicron is similarly lethal in relation to Alpha or Delta strains.

Right now #1 looks to be true. As far as we can tell, #2 may not be--our vaccines may still protect (at least outcome-wise, if not infection/transmission wise) from Omicron. And the early data suggests that #3 may not be true. 

So... We'll see. As long as the vaccines are still effective at preventing hospitalization/death, and especially if Omicron is by nature less lethal than previous strains, it won't be all that big of a deal, at least in developed countries with high vax rates and robust medical infrastructure. 

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16578 on: December 06, 2021, 10:13:48 PM »
Have any of you been treated with monoclonal antibodies?
Did the treatment agree with you or disagree with you?
What was the cost?

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16579 on: December 06, 2021, 10:17:59 PM »
Every time a new case is discovered its front page news like "Its Here" etc

we obviously dont look at the same news sources
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16580 on: December 06, 2021, 11:43:40 PM »
Have any of you been treated with monoclonal antibodies?
Did the treatment agree with you or disagree with you?
What was the cost?
I have not, but everything I've heard has been positive. If you catch the infection early, they seem to knock it down quickly.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16581 on: December 07, 2021, 12:37:23 AM »

I have not, but everything I've heard has been positive. If you catch the infection early, they seem to knock it down quickly.
Thank you for your input. The doctor told me it is a 2-hour infusion treatment. The drug available here is Regencov, and it is in short supply at our rural hospital. In fact, earlier today a lay client who follows this stuff told me our hospital was out. At 5:30 p.m. the doc said she would have to check, as it is day-to-day, and they get new shipments. I read there are side-effects for some that can be unpleasant.
I am vaccinated. I was scheduled to get my booster Dec. 10. The booster is off, for now. 
Doc told me because I was weighed with my clothing on, I just met the BMI qualification of 25. Nice way to say, "You are almost fat, but that gives us more options." I am 3-months from 65 which is the other qualification for monoclonal antibodies. 
The first time I had this, Oct. 2020, I had no symptoms. This time it feels like a severe cold, headachy at times, phlegm, sinus, coughs to expel crap. Symptoms started Friday Dec. 3 at 10:30 p.m. Tonight it is at its worse, but if this is all the worse it gets, I can live with it. The future is hard to predict.
Get booster shots! If you have people working for you who refuse to vaccinate, and you have the decision making power, look out after your own safety and the safety of others. I delayed boostering because I thought I would have greater immunity having tested + before and having been vaccinated in April.  Don't think you can outfox this. Boosters are available.



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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16582 on: December 07, 2021, 06:07:45 AM »
Best wishes to you for a speedy recovery.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16583 on: December 07, 2021, 08:30:58 AM »
Stock futures jumped early morning Tuesday after a rebound from a rollercoaster week as investors grew less fearful of the potential impact from the new omicron coronavirus variant.
Futures on the Dow Jones Industrial Average rose 358 points, or 1%. S&P 500 futures rose 1.3% and Nasdaq 100 futures were up 1.7%.

Chipmaker stocks were the early winners, with Intel leaping 8.4% and NVIDIA up 3.7%, following news that Intel was planning to take its self-driving car unit, Mobileye, public in mid-2022.
Casino stocks also were hot, as Las Vegas Sands rose 3.4%, while cruise lines also gained on the enthusiasm that omicron may pose less of a threat than feared. Carnival and Norwegian Cruise Line Holdings jumped about 3.5% each.

Dow futures jump more than 300 points, continuing rebound as investors reassess omicron risk (cnbc.com)

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16584 on: December 07, 2021, 08:55:03 AM »
Have any of you been treated with monoclonal antibodies?
Did the treatment agree with you or disagree with you?
What was the cost?
Regencov - I believe that was what my neighbors received with much success.Both 70 & retired but active,unfortunately she has beginning symptoms of parkinson's.Her sister about 6 weeks ago -week before Halloween- was visiting from Pa the SIL was vaxed - they weren't,well somehow they all got covid.He called his PC Doctor on a tuesday and she got him an appt for saturday.However some one cancelled and he got in wednesday and they were able to get the other two in on short order.And they all liked the results obviously.The think the SIL got it 1st as she was out/about much more "maybe" because she was previously vaxed
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16585 on: December 07, 2021, 10:15:22 AM »
A woman in Northwest Houston has tested positive for Omicron.  She was fully vaccinated and only has mild symptoms

The kicker is she has not traveled at all which means she must have gotten it from some other person here

They have detected signs of Omicron in the waste water of 11 districts here

Bottom line Omicron has been here for a while 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16586 on: December 07, 2021, 10:30:37 AM »
South Africa should be open for travel, that being the case.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16587 on: December 07, 2021, 11:45:42 AM »
South Africa should be open for travel, that being the case.
One question Ive got is if you get Omicron does it give you protection against getting regular covid

cause if it does wouldnt that be neat
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16588 on: December 07, 2021, 12:17:45 PM »
I seem to remember that when Delta made it's initial run it pretty much put all the other types/variants out of business. Since Omicron took over in South Africa even faster than Delta did, would this be the beginning of the end of Delta?

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #16589 on: December 07, 2021, 12:22:07 PM »
One question Ive got is if you get Omicron does it give you protection against getting regular covid

cause if it does wouldnt that be neat

I think being infected by any variant, gives you some protection against the other variants.

 

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