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utee94

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12362 on: February 08, 2021, 10:05:50 AM »

Fenway is my favorite of all the old parks, even better than Wrigley but it's close.



I saw The Rocket pitch for the Blue Jays and beat his former team at Fenway once upon a time in July 1997.  That was a fun game.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12363 on: February 08, 2021, 10:12:02 AM »
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/a-blow-for-astrazeneca-vaccine-touted-as-world-s-best-hope-for-defeating-covid-19/ar-BB1duLbh?ocid=spartan-dhp-feeds


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A blow for AstraZeneca vaccine, touted as world's best hope for defeating Covid-19

South Africa has paused its rollout of the Oxford-AstraZeneca coronavirus vaccine after a study showed that it offered "minimal protection" against mild or moderate illness caused by the more contagious virus variant first identified there, known as B.1.351.


...It was not clear from the study, which has not yet been peer reviewed, whether the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine protected against severe disease from the B.1.351 variant. The 2,000 clinical trial participants were mostly young healthy adults, unlikely to become severely ill. But based on immune responses detected in their blood samples, scientists said there was "still some hope" that the vaccine could protect against more severe cases....

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longhorn320

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12364 on: February 08, 2021, 10:33:42 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on February 08, 2021, 10:12:02 AM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/a-blow-for-astrazeneca-vaccine-touted-as-world-s-best-hope-for-defeating-covid-19/ar-BB1duLbh?ocid=spartan-dhp-feeds



Nothing indicating the stats from the study who or how the study was conducted and due to the source of this article Im not buying it until we have these facts

Bottom line is how many if any got the virus after being vaccinated
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12365 on: February 08, 2021, 10:37:56 AM »
Moderna and Pfizer claim that their vaccines work against the newer strains, and they are constantly tweaking. AZN will do the same, I'm sure. 

I'm not big into anything that comes out of CNN, as they would like the world to remain closed so people can watch them all day.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12366 on: February 08, 2021, 10:39:26 AM »
and if they did get the virus, was it severe?  Hospitalizations and/or deaths
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12367 on: February 08, 2021, 10:40:55 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on February 08, 2021, 10:39:26 AM
and if they did get the virus, was it severe?  Hospitalizations and/or deaths
This info is in the article and the study.  It wasn't severe, but the sample also trended toward the young and healthy.  So the study is inconclusive on that front.  It's also not peer-reviewed as of yet.


And, I'm just passing along info, no need for y'all to get your panties all bunched up. :)
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12368 on: February 08, 2021, 10:52:02 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on February 08, 2021, 10:40:55 AM
This info is in the article and the study.  It wasn't severe, but the sample also trended toward the young and healthy.  So the study is inconclusive on that front.  It's also not peer-reviewed as of yet.


And, I'm just passing along info, no need for y'all to get your panties all bunched up. :)

utee we are just giving our thoughts on a very pessimistic article

Nobody is shooting the messenger 

calm yourself
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12369 on: February 08, 2021, 10:52:21 AM »
I should point out, because it's become a staple of anti-vax memes, that they're saying "the vaccine doesn't even stop you from getting the virus!" And even then "you can still pass it on to others after getting vaccinated!"

Of course it doesn't, dummy. It's not a magical force field that prevents virus cells from entering your system. It teaches your immune system to handle the virus when it is encountered without succumbing to the disease caused by the virus and having horrible reactions. 

This has been true with every vaccine, ever. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12370 on: February 08, 2021, 10:57:50 AM »
And here I thought it was a force field. Damn.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12371 on: February 08, 2021, 11:00:32 AM »
Tracking with 7 day moving average

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12372 on: February 08, 2021, 11:33:41 AM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on February 08, 2021, 10:52:02 AM
utee we are just giving our thoughts on a very pessimistic article

Nobody is shooting the messenger

calm yourself

https://youtu.be/zrzMhU_4m-g?t=47
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12373 on: February 08, 2021, 11:36:15 AM »
Quote from: bwarbiany on February 08, 2021, 10:52:21 AM
This has been true with every vaccine, ever.
So you're saying Genie crossing her arms blinking and nodding simultaneously has a chance?
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12374 on: February 08, 2021, 11:50:16 AM »
Quote from: bwarbiany on February 08, 2021, 10:52:21 AM
I should point out, because it's become a staple of anti-vax memes, that they're saying "the vaccine doesn't even stop you from getting the virus!" And even then "you can still pass it on to others after getting vaccinated!"

Of course it doesn't, dummy. It's not a magical force field that prevents virus cells from entering your system. It teaches your immune system to handle the virus when it is encountered without succumbing to the disease caused by the virus and having horrible reactions.

This has been true with every vaccine, ever.
Yeah I'm not sure why folks are latching onto silly nonsense like this.
 
10 months ago, everyone became an epidemiologist.  Now, I guess everyone has become a doctor specializing in infectious disease.  And the mainstream media are just as bad as the social media at fanning the flames.

  
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #12375 on: February 08, 2021, 12:24:46 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on February 08, 2021, 11:50:16 AM
Yeah I'm not sure why folks are latching onto silly nonsense like this.
Not to echo OAM, but it's because the masses are dumb.
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