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Topic: SI Says 12 Team Playoff Likely w/ 6 At-Large

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Brutus Buckeye

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Re: SI Says 12 Team Playoff Likely w/ 6 At-Large
« Reply #266 on: June 27, 2021, 02:59:08 PM »
I guess. It is just interesting to note the different mentalities that develop at the various levels of the totem pole. 

OSU fans are always elated to see good B1G West teams on the crossover schedule. When it's Illinois and Minnesota they are like "Holy crap, this schedule sucks!" They want to watch a lot of big games, not easy Ws. 

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Re: SI Says 12 Team Playoff Likely w/ 6 At-Large
« Reply #267 on: June 27, 2021, 03:11:00 PM »
That's how bored you are with the 13 dwarfs
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Re: SI Says 12 Team Playoff Likely w/ 6 At-Large
« Reply #268 on: June 27, 2021, 03:12:53 PM »
So you chosen to suggest here that Auburn > LSU = Alabama > Arkansas
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Fantastic.
No. I was comparing Florida playing LSU to Georgia playing Auburn.  Florida playing Alabama during the regular season is so rare as to make it irrelevant for the purpose of this exercise.

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Re: SI Says 12 Team Playoff Likely w/ 6 At-Large
« Reply #269 on: June 27, 2021, 03:13:05 PM »
Yes, LSU bellyaches about it, not Bama. Bama is a perennial title contender, while LSU is a really good team hoping to catch a bunch of breaks. Thanks for illustrating my point so beautifully.
Again, context.  You're ignoring the WHY behind their belly-aching.  Alabama CHOSE Tennessee.  Georgia CHOSE Auburn.  Everyone else got slapped together with someone because reasons.
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I'd go more in-depth, but it will only be chalked up to whining.  
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Re: SI Says 12 Team Playoff Likely w/ 6 At-Large
« Reply #270 on: June 27, 2021, 03:27:47 PM »
Bama "chose" Tennessee because they thought that they'd be good. Not because they wanted a built in scheduling advantage. 

It may have worked out that way, but that's not the way that they drew it up. 

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Re: SI Says 12 Team Playoff Likely w/ 6 At-Large
« Reply #271 on: June 27, 2021, 03:54:14 PM »
They chose them because of tradition.  Not how good or bad they were.  
I'll always be amazed how 4 teams held the other 8 hostage.
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Re: SI Says 12 Team Playoff Likely w/ 6 At-Large
« Reply #272 on: June 27, 2021, 03:58:08 PM »
A traditional that was born out of both teams being good.

In hindsight they probably should have gone with Florida, but if they had done that then your current crossover situation would be quite a bit more dire than the one that you are all up in arms about. O0

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Re: SI Says 12 Team Playoff Likely w/ 6 At-Large
« Reply #273 on: June 27, 2021, 04:51:26 PM »
Maybe it's just me but if I were a Florida fan, then my scheduling wishlist would include either LSU or Bama as the fixed crossover. I would want 9 SEC games instead of 8 in order to increase my chances of getting to play both. I would want to maintain annual OOC rivalries with Florida St "and" Miami instead of "or." I would not at all prioritize scheduling anyone else OOC instead of them. When you have three teams in one state that all racked up multiple NCs around the same time while regularly playing each other, set that tradition in stone. That's right up there with the Commander in Chief trophy as about as good an OOC tradition as you can possibly hope for as a CFB fan of any stripe.

The one area where I might go a little off script would be the FCS/Bye week combo that precedes the FSU game. Get rid of it? No! Give me the worst FCS team that the South has to offer and let's see if the Gators can hang 100 on them!

I mean you guys are the most poised in all of CFB to just make your team an absolute videogame experience. Yet they don't even try to maximize all of those gifts. "Here! The ultimate annual nonconferece slate imaginable!" "Nah, we're good."

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Re: SI Says 12 Team Playoff Likely w/ 6 At-Large
« Reply #274 on: June 27, 2021, 05:14:42 PM »
King Barry thinks it might be time to go back to 8 BIG conference games to level the field, if the SEC absolutely won't consider going to 9
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Re: SI Says 12 Team Playoff Likely w/ 6 At-Large
« Reply #275 on: June 27, 2021, 08:00:04 PM »

I mean you guys are the most poised in all of CFB to just make your team an absolute videogame experience. Yet they don't even try to maximize all of those gifts. "Here! The ultimate annual nonconferece slate imaginable!" "Nah, we're good."
Right, a video game experience, where you win 99% of the time.  Here in reality, if Florida had done what you're suggesting the past 30 years, we'd have zero NCs and probably peak at 10-2.
We'd be Purdue or somebody.
No thanks.
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Re: SI Says 12 Team Playoff Likely w/ 6 At-Large
« Reply #276 on: June 27, 2021, 08:26:45 PM »
Yes, that is the mindset that I would expect you to have.

Bama on the other hand... 

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Re: SI Says 12 Team Playoff Likely w/ 6 At-Large
« Reply #277 on: June 27, 2021, 08:49:12 PM »
Bama is in the midst of the all-time best run in the history of college football.  Citing them is a waste of an example.
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Re: SI Says 12 Team Playoff Likely w/ 6 At-Large
« Reply #278 on: June 27, 2021, 09:09:12 PM »
Let's not pretend it's simply about talent this year:
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Cross Division Games:
Georgia:  Arkansas & Auburn
Florida:  Alabama & LSU

Good thing UF is rebuilding? Also not sure what LSU will be.

Also, I'm of the opinion they need to do away with the locked crossovers with this elegant solution: If you don't have the game you want, schedule it in the non-conference. So in the two of three years Bama and UT don't play, they just schedule each other right before the SEC season starts. Same with UGA and Auburn and the one other one that actually means anything. Then LSU-UF, SC-A&M, MSU-UK, Ole Miss-Vandy and probably Arkansas-Mizzouri can all die a natural and dignified death.

(Or Florida can hold onto it if they want. Whatever)

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Re: SI Says 12 Team Playoff Likely w/ 6 At-Large
« Reply #279 on: June 27, 2021, 09:35:30 PM »
Bama is in the midst of the all-time best run in the history of college football.  Citing them is a waste of an example.
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No, that's actually my point. Teams at the top don't back down from a challenge.

I get the other side of the coin. If OSU plays Western Kentucky in 2008 instead of USC, then they spend the season in the NC hunt with a senior QB instead of being forced into a rebuilding year breaking in a freshman QB.

That mentality doesn't fly with OSU fans though. You'd be laughed out of the room if you came up with that particular suggestion.

 

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