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Topic: SI: College Football's Best Traditions

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Re: SI: College Football's Best Traditions
« Reply #70 on: August 20, 2019, 04:07:22 PM »
There was tailgating at West Point when I was teaching there 1993-96.  It was semi-organized (in the sense of where it was permissible), and it took place in or very close to the main parking area for Michie (pronounced "Mikey," BTW) Stadium.
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« Reply #71 on: August 20, 2019, 05:55:19 PM »
Did not know it was pronounced Mikey Stadium.  I've only ever seen it referenced in print, and not spoken, I suppose...




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« Reply #72 on: August 20, 2019, 07:17:41 PM »
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« Reply #73 on: August 20, 2019, 07:52:29 PM »
Did not know it was pronounced Mikey Stadium.  I've only ever seen it referenced in print, and not spoken, I suppose...
Berry Tramel, the great (seriously) sportswriter for the Oklahoman, pronounces it "Mitchie" and says it's nestled in the Catskills.  He's wrong on both counts.  West Point is in the Hudson Highlands.  The Catskills are further north.



Michie Stadium, 1 November 2008, Army hosting Air Force, looking roughly southward.  That's Lusk Reservoir just to the east of the stadium, and the beautiful, and I mean beautiful, Hudson River beyond that.

The two parking lots visible east and southeast of the stadium would have some tailgating going on around the periphery.
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« Reply #74 on: August 20, 2019, 11:24:46 PM »
Berry Tramel, the great (seriously) sportswriter for the Oklahoman, pronounces it "Mitchie" and says it's nestled in the Catskills.  He's wrong on both counts.  West Point is in the Hudson Highlands.  The Catskills are further north.



Michie Stadium, 1 November 2008, Army hosting Air Force, looking roughly southward.  That's Lusk Reservoir just to the east of the stadium, and the beautiful, and I mean beautiful, Hudson River beyond that.

The two parking lots visible east and southeast of the stadium would have some tailgating going on around the periphery.
That’s a great shot.  When I think of college football I think of days like that.

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« Reply #75 on: August 20, 2019, 11:39:20 PM »
Beano Cook would tout that scene more than any other in college football.   You know what they say about a broken clock.

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« Reply #76 on: August 21, 2019, 12:50:35 AM »
There was an article about tailgating in the early 1970s. It seemed like a great idea. For some reason I want to say this was in the NY Times, not that we subscribed to it, but that it received wide distribution from there. I grew up in a Catholic family. My dad bought station wagons to haul the brood, so we were set for the latest craze.

Mom packed ham sandwiches for dad and me, a cooler with some lemondade and off to Iowa City the two of us traveled from Dubuque. We parked in front of the quonset hut which was where I lived from ages 0-3 while Dad was attending the U of Iowa, and where he already had 3-kids before he graduated from college. We dropped the tailgate, ate our sandwiches, chips, and drank from the large thermos of lemonade and walked over to Iowa Stadium about 3/4ths mile away. It was my first tailgate circa about 1971 or 72 I would guess.

Alcohol would be added a few years later and became a regular feature.

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« Reply #77 on: August 21, 2019, 01:13:51 AM »
That’s a great shot.  When I think of college football I think of days like that.
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« Reply #78 on: August 21, 2019, 01:53:27 AM »
As for Iowa, we have had many traditions. Trains brought people to the games from Des Moines and Davenport and who knows where else until the early 1960s. They disembarked below Kinnick Stadium about one block away. About 15-years ago a meager train service was re-established, and there had been no train for 40-years, called the Hawkeye Express, bringing people to the games again from Coralville about 2 or 3 miles away. Railroad buffs will notice that Iowa Interstate RR has the Rock Island Line logo acquired from bankruptcy court and uses it as they please. 


Here is a better presentation than I have on my camera:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWLSxmnXAG4

Iowa has the Iowa "Kid Captain" program. A child with severe health issues who recovered at the U of I Hospital is a Kid Captain who gets to walk out onto the field during the game. One of our local girls had that honor who was in a horrific crash. One of my daughter's friends growing up. https://uichildrens.org/kid-captain/2010/maleah-mccool

It iis an advertisement as well, but they did the work, and brought Maleah back to us.

We have the Hawkeye Wave.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJC4wGgzm4U

We have the beer band wandering through the establishments in downtown Iowa City the night before games, and most recently started honoring my Seminoles, as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGeMH9hLndY



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Re: SI: College Football's Best Traditions
« Reply #79 on: August 21, 2019, 07:55:14 AM »
Gator said Michie Stadium was the prettiest he had ever seen.  And he'd seen a few.

Kid #2 turned down a chance to attend WP.  Was kind of being indoctrinated a bit at the time.

That sounds like a trip to be taken.

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« Reply #80 on: August 21, 2019, 08:06:42 AM »
I enjoyed the shot of Michie Stadium.  That fall foliage is pert'near unbeatable.

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Re: SI: College Football's Best Traditions
« Reply #81 on: August 21, 2019, 09:15:49 AM »
One of our longest "traditions" is preseason polls, and discussions thereof.

Last year, 11 out of 25 ended up unranked.

So, our "experts" are right half the time, slightly better than.

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« Reply #82 on: August 21, 2019, 09:29:52 AM »
I would imagine that the experts that come out with the preseason polls have done plenty of homework - returning talent, strength of schedule, how they fared last season (yeah yeah, new year, new team, but often times teams don't change THAT much, barring coaching changes or a much-ballyhooed QB transfer), etc.  There isn't an exact science, but I'd wager that they're probably a lot closer than what we give them credit for.

What they can't account for are the injuries, suspensions, chemistry (or lack thereof), poor play, poor officiating, crappy weather, etc. that can ruin a game or even a season.

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« Reply #83 on: August 21, 2019, 09:59:41 AM »
I would imagine that the experts that come out with the preseason polls have done plenty of homework - returning talent, strength of schedule, how they fared last season (yeah yeah, new year, new team, but often times teams don't change THAT much, barring coaching changes or a much-ballyhooed QB transfer), etc.  There isn't an exact science, but I'd wager that they're probably a lot closer than what we give them credit for.

What they can't account for are the injuries, suspensions, chemistry (or lack thereof), poor play, poor officiating, crappy weather, etc. that can ruin a game or even a season.

Well first, I'm not sure I can agree with even your initial point.  The coaches certainly don't spend a ton of time evaluating all 100+ D1-A teams and slotting them into their top 25.  Most of them don't even vote, they leave it to assistants, interns, etc.  And those assistants and interns don't spend much time either, they have actual real jobs to worry about.

AP voters might be slightly better, but the obvious regional biases in their rankings are well documented over the years.  

The computer rankings don't really "do homework" because they're largely straight algorithms.

I guess some of the other various publications might put more effort into their rankings, Phil Steele and the other ones out there.  But those aren't the rankings that anyone's using when they advertise "Two Top 25 teams in the B1G square off this Saturday!!!!!" so really anything that's not AP, coaches' poll, or CFP rankings, is pretty irrelevant to the way matchups are understood throughout the season.

But even if we accept that these entities DO perform such due diligence, they're still only right about half the time, so it's a fairly pointless exercise regardless of how much effort goes into it.

But hey, we get to argue all preseason, and then all season long, about what some yahoo thinks of our teams, so I guess it serves its purpose anyway. :)


 

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