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Topic: Second CFP Rankings

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Re: Second CFP Rankings
« Reply #84 on: November 15, 2021, 02:34:53 AM »
I'd like to see Georgia, Oregon, Alabama, and Michigan or MSU in it.  Interesting matchups. 

I meant to say Cincinnati, so they get their shot at public embarrassment.
It is difficult to say what would happen if Ohio State loses to MSU or Michigan. It seems unlikely, but back-to-back games against Top 10 teams could take a toll on Ohio State and it is entirely possible. If Michigan or MSU wins-out, I suspect the team that does win-out gets into the CFB playoff. There would be no reason to put Cincy or ND, in if MSU and Mich. win out, and the only other possibility is Okie St, or Ok. And, I don't think any of these are deserving.

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Re: Second CFP Rankings
« Reply #85 on: November 15, 2021, 07:26:57 AM »
I prefer Alabama to be out (duh) of the conversation.  Oklahoma State would be interesting, Oregon somewhat interesting, and a B1G rep whoever it is to be.  Cincy is OK with me too.  ND has had a nice season save one game.

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Re: Second CFP Rankings
« Reply #86 on: November 15, 2021, 07:38:09 AM »
They also lost their starting QB early in Game 2. 
I know, I know, we shouldn't care about that.

Context is the enemy!!!
That starting QB's lone performance included three picks against a bottom-10 scoring defense. The backup led them to an upset of Alabama.

And despite recruiting like gangbusters, they managed only one blue chip QB in Year 4. These things are not helping them be less weird. 

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Re: Second CFP Rankings
« Reply #87 on: November 15, 2021, 08:02:57 AM »
I prefer Alabama to be out (duh) of the conversation.  Oklahoma State would be interesting, Oregon somewhat interesting, and a B1G rep whoever it is to be.  Cincy is OK with me too.  ND has had a nice season save one game.
Good Post The other OSU is a possibility if they win out.I would think Oregon is too,tOSU also if Gawja wins out
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Re: Second CFP Rankings
« Reply #88 on: November 15, 2021, 08:06:35 AM »
UGA is virtually in already, with two pastries on the slate and then even a loss in the CG would probably keep them in.  You can pencil them in, rightly or wrongly.

Incidentally, a team can beat UGA the old fashioned way, stop the run, which is doable, they have been significantly slowed by teams like Missouri this year until the second half.  Make Stetson beat you with his arm.  If they got George Pickens back at WR it would help, a lot, but I don't expect that.  Just stop the run first, and get them into second and third in 6-8 yards, and shadow the QB so he doesn't run.

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Re: Second CFP Rankings
« Reply #89 on: November 15, 2021, 08:14:49 AM »
Oklahoma State
Oregon
Ohio State - MSU - UM
UGA
Bama 
Cincy
ND

Probably a couple other long shots like Wake.  

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Re: Second CFP Rankings
« Reply #90 on: November 15, 2021, 08:27:43 AM »
You can't really believe this.
A team's best 5 players sit out for non-injury reasons - a newfangled side-effect of the 4-team playoff and you want to pretend like it doesn't alter the outcome? 
Go away.
OH really vs Alabama,Ohio State had 2 Starters on their defensive line out and their place kicker also under Covid protocol and Try Sermon went down on the 1st series of the game.Perhaps you need a time out
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Re: Second CFP Rankings
« Reply #91 on: November 15, 2021, 08:35:26 AM »
I think we all could agree that critical injuries, while part of the game, often are influential.

How to adjust for that is another question.

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Re: Second CFP Rankings
« Reply #92 on: November 15, 2021, 08:40:57 AM »
Go Away 😎
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Re: Second CFP Rankings
« Reply #93 on: November 15, 2021, 09:52:45 AM »
They're kinda weird. They rolled up 41 points on Bama, 19 on Ole Miss. Per SP+, they lost to 17, 31, 34, but beat No. 2. They have top-flight lines and a great secondary. They have two very good, not Great, backs, one very good receiver and a great tight end, but can't tie it all together. Their offense my be too complicated. And they have the most expensive coach with a pair of somewhat opposed past two seasons in a certain light.

Interesting, if nothing else.
Texas A&M publicly admitted they spent all Summer preparing for Alabama. In looking at their first five weeks schedule in the link below, there is a great indication that they spent most, if not all, of that time in prepping for Bama. They most certainly didn't prepare for Colorado, a 10-7 win in which they scored the winning TD with 2:41 left in the game, shown in the second link. Click Scoring Plays.

https://fbschedules.com/texas-am-football-schedule/

https://www.espn.com/college-football/playbyplay/_/gameId/401282067



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Re: Second CFP Rankings
« Reply #94 on: November 15, 2021, 10:09:25 AM »
UGA is virtually in already, with two pastries on the slate and then even a loss in the CG would probably keep them in.  You can pencil them in, rightly or wrongly.

Incidentally, a team can beat UGA the old fashioned way, stop the run, which is doable, they have been significantly slowed by teams like Missouri this year until the second half.  Make Stetson beat you with his arm.  If they got George Pickens back at WR it would help, a lot, but I don't expect that.  Just stop the run first, and get them into second and third in 6-8 yards, and shadow the QB so he doesn't run.
You have to be the only non-delusional Georgia fan on the face of the Earth. I live in Georgia and I have never met one.

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Re: Second CFP Rankings
« Reply #95 on: November 15, 2021, 10:11:14 AM »
UGA fans are understandably desparate for the missing ring.  But fan is short for ...

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Re: Second CFP Rankings
« Reply #96 on: November 16, 2021, 08:03:25 PM »
The poindextering of the sport in one tweet.


https://twitter.com/slmandel/status/1460767667351031808?s=20

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Re: Second CFP Rankings
« Reply #97 on: November 16, 2021, 08:15:37 PM »
The poindextering of the sport in one tweet.


https://twitter.com/slmandel/status/1460767667351031808?s=20

this is what happens when you have a playoff where the committee ranks teams off the eye test...regular season head-to-head doesn't matter as much anymore....

eye test homer in me- Michigan is a better team than Sparty. Michigan should've been up 23 (B1G admitted ref made mistake over-turning Hutchison TD) yet were still up 16 with 18-19 mins left in the game and Harbaugh absolutely beefed a W they had in the bag on the road in a rivalry game- it happens- especially to guy like Harbs. Michigan wins that on a neutral field imo. And they'd be favored if the game was on a neutral field right now imo. 

MSU has the scoreboard- no question about it- but MSU has literally the worst pass defense in the country- they are dead last at 130 in passing yards allowed. Michigan seems been ascending since that game and Michigan State has been descending with that pretty bad loss vs Purdue.

 

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