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Topic: S.O.C. Conference Championship Weekend

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Re: S.O.C. Conference Championship Weekend
« Reply #574 on: December 05, 2022, 11:10:08 AM »
Everybody by now is missing important pieces, duh, some more than others.

UGA is relatively healthy, but missing their best ILB, the rest should be OK.

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Re: S.O.C. Conference Championship Weekend
« Reply #575 on: December 05, 2022, 11:16:54 AM »
Treveyon has never blown me away. That might be because Osu RB have been absurdly good in my lifetime. In my teens, I was still a big UM guy but how could you not be in awe of Eddie George? Then guys like Clarrett & Beanie, Zeke, etc. so weirdly I probably don’t give Treveyon enough credit.

Njigba I probably don’t either. I think he’s a stud, one of the best in the country, but Marvin Jr is possibly the best WR I’ve ever consistently watched in college. I seriously don’t get why they don’t throw to him more. I think he had 8 targets, 7 receptions and 120 yards against Michigan. Like why not throw at him 13-15 times? He makes amazing plays.

AlsoX I don’t hear the Treveyon argument well because I think Day played the wrong back anyways. Should have been Hayden. After Corum went out, Michigan kept handing off to Stokes which I thought was insane. Finally they adjusted and started handing off to Edwards, while Day never made the adjustment.

So yes, Buckeyes were missing talent, but I think they were primarily outcoached.

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Re: S.O.C. Conference Championship Weekend
« Reply #576 on: December 05, 2022, 11:36:26 AM »
Treveyon has never blown me away. That might be because Osu RB have been absurdly good in my lifetime. In my teens, I was still a big UM guy but how could you not be in awe of Eddie George? Then guys like Clarrett & Beanie, Zeke, etc. so weirdly I probably don’t give Treveyon enough credit.

Njigba I probably don’t either. I think he’s a stud, one of the best in the country, but Marvin Jr is possibly the best WR I’ve ever consistently watched in college. I seriously don’t get why they don’t throw to him more. I think he had 8 targets, 7 receptions and 120 yards against Michigan. Like why not throw at him 13-15 times? He makes amazing plays.

AlsoX I don’t hear the Treveyon argument well because I think Day played the wrong back anyways. Should have been Hayden. After Corum went out, Michigan kept handing off to Stokes which I thought was insane. Finally they adjusted and started handing off to Edwards, while Day never made the adjustment.

So yes, Buckeyes were missing talent, but I think they were primarily outcoached.
Out coached?  You are being kind my friend 😂😂.

I do understand your thoughts on Henderson. As a freshmen he was amazing but got hurt about halfway through the season, and was not the same.  He was on a great trajectory up to that point. He is a lot like Edwards- great pass catcher and a home run hitter if he clears the LOS. He is not like Corum( or Dobbins) in that he can make 6 yards even when we’ll defended.
But you should withhold final judgement on him, as I am sure you would anyway, until we see him fully healthy. 

As for Njigba and Harrison- I agree with you. What is often misunderstood though is the impact of Njigba’s amazing ability to get separation quickly versus man or zone, especially when teams play the type of coverage schemes UM ran.  It makes it extremely difficult to defend OSU and try the bend but don’t break. Harrison is awesome, but that is not his forte.  Just look at last years Rose Bowl. Utah tried that scheme- and both Njigba and Harrison lit them up because they simply could not cover both. 
That’s why Njigbas absence has hurt the most
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Re: S.O.C. Conference Championship Weekend
« Reply #577 on: December 05, 2022, 11:42:05 AM »
Something i saw McCarthy do in the 2nd half vs the Boilers was really thread the needle on a TD throw,low,tight spiral into a small window.If he can do that consistently coupled with his running he'll be a load.There was no lift or hangtime on that dart
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« Reply #578 on: December 05, 2022, 11:52:33 AM »
My take on Corum being out is that it SHOULD have made a big difference but was largely negated by the tOSU coaching staff apparently not realizing that he wasn't playing. 

I've seen some Michigan fans say that Edwards is better, I don't know. I think they are different. If my team had a third and one and I could choose one I'd take Corum because I think he is tougher and harder to bring down. If my team had a RB get a good block and break the LOS with a lot of space in front of him and I could choose one I'd take Edwards because I think he is a better and faster open-field runner.

When I say that tOSU's coaching staff apparently didn't realize that Corum wasn't playing, I'm referring to their first half strategy. They made it REALLY tough for Michigan to run and that part worked. 

Michigan's first half drives were four three-and-outs, one 10 play, 44 yard drive for a FG, and the two long play TD's. Even there, the first one came on 3rd and 9.

Here were Michigan's plays on the four three-and-outs and the two plays leading up to the 3rd and 9, 69 yard TD:

  • Run, 2 on 1st and 10
  • Run, 3 on 2nd and 5
  • Incomplete on 3rd and 5
  • Run, -1 on 1st and 10
  • Incomplete on 2nd and 11
  • Incomplete on 3rd and 11
  • Run, 4 on 1st and 10
  • Run, 5 on 2nd and 6
  • Run, 0 on 3rd and 1
  • Pass, 0 on 1st and 10
  • Pass, 8 on 2nd and 10
  • False start on 3rd and 2
  • False start on 3rd and 7
  • Pass, 4 on 3rd and 12
  • Run, 2 on 1st and 10
  • Run, -1 on 2nd and 8
They simply didn't need to be THAT aggressive. 


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Re: S.O.C. Conference Championship Weekend
« Reply #579 on: December 05, 2022, 12:01:23 PM »
My take on Corum being out is that it SHOULD have made a big difference but was largely negated by the tOSU coaching staff apparently not realizing that he wasn't playing.
It was the scheme not the player they were unprepared for IMO.Edwards more than filled in handsomely who knows it could have turned into a Wally Pip situation
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Re: S.O.C. Conference Championship Weekend
« Reply #580 on: December 05, 2022, 02:04:57 PM »
yo, Bucknutz

this is the Conference Championship thread...

the woe is us "the game" thread is that way >>>>>>>>
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