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Topic: Rose Post Game: #6 Ohio State 48, #11 Utah 45

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MarqHusker

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Re: Rose Post Game: #6 Ohio State 48, #11 Utah 45
« Reply #112 on: January 01, 2022, 11:56:50 PM »
Yeah, two way playing not a rare sight in HS even bigger schools.   I did a little two way, though my Def participation was in scheme situations. 

Our center was our NG.  FB was MLB, TEs we played safety  etc.     

I noticed a fair amount of 2 way in a local game I attended this fall.  

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Re: Rose Post Game: #6 Ohio State 48, #11 Utah 45
« Reply #114 on: January 02, 2022, 12:39:39 AM »
Reading one board

one poster said:Stroud had 570 yds without Olave and Wilson

another said :So instead of one guy with 327 yards you would have three guys each with 110 yards.  It’s not like they would gain any more total yards since the end zone kept getting in their way.
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Re: Rose Post Game: #6 Ohio State 48, #11 Utah 45
« Reply #115 on: January 02, 2022, 12:57:25 AM »
Reading one board

one poster said:Stroud had 570 yds without Olave and Wilson

another said :So instead of one guy with 327 yards you would have three guys each with 110 yards.  It’s not like they would gain any more total yards since the end zone kept getting in their way.
This is basically true. 

Discounting the one end of half drive, they gained 72.5 percent of the possible yards. 

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Re: Rose Post Game: #6 Ohio State 48, #11 Utah 45
« Reply #116 on: January 02, 2022, 06:49:59 AM »
JSN finishes with most yards in the B1G this year and breaks an OSU season record. Also, his receiving yards from last night (347) would land him as the 39th most in the conference for the season. 

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Re: Rose Post Game: #6 Ohio State 48, #11 Utah 45
« Reply #117 on: January 02, 2022, 07:57:10 AM »
This is basically true.

Discounting the one end of half drive, they gained 72.5 percent of the possible yards.
Interesting,Just curious where did you go to fetch that stat? Anyways win/lose it was a fun contest to watch.Good Luck to Utah many happy returns.Lost in the hoopla surrounding JSN-Stroud Marvin Harrison Jr had 3 TDs
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Re: Rose Post Game: #6 Ohio State 48, #11 Utah 45
« Reply #118 on: January 02, 2022, 08:47:39 AM »
Yeah, two way playing not a rare sight in HS even bigger schools.  I did a little two way, though my Def participation was in scheme situations.

Our center was our NG.  FB was MLB, TEs we played safety  etc.   

I noticed a fair amount of 2 way in a local game I attended this fall. 
True, most HSs play their best players both ways.

Usually it's because they are good though, and not because they only have like 15 guys on the team. 
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Re: Rose Post Game: #6 Ohio State 48, #11 Utah 45
« Reply #119 on: January 02, 2022, 09:32:15 AM »
Interesting,Just curious where did you go to fetch that stat? Anyways win/lose it was a fun contest to watch.Good Luck to Utah many happy returns.Lost in the hoopla surrounding JSN-Stroud Marvin Harrison Jr had 3 TDs
I know someone somewhere tracks it. But I just calculated that one by hand.

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Re: Rose Post Game: #6 Ohio State 48, #11 Utah 45
« Reply #120 on: January 02, 2022, 06:32:54 PM »
Lulz if you think that Ute offense was anywhere near the same after the starting qb went down.  But congrats anyway any win is a good win.
Lulz. Utah only had 2 processions with back up QB. The 1st was 2 runs and a punt. The 2nd was an SEC ref manufacturer touchdown.

Lulz, Utah scored all of 3 points in the 2nd half with the starting QB. And 7 with the back up. Statistically he was an upgrade.

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Re: Rose Post Game: #6 Ohio State 48, #11 Utah 45
« Reply #121 on: January 02, 2022, 06:36:26 PM »
this was probably discussed, but why not go for two after your frosh QB gets that TD with a couple minutes left?

probably didn't matter because the Bucks scored easily, but why prolong a game when you're star QB is on the bench?
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Re: Rose Post Game: #6 Ohio State 48, #11 Utah 45
« Reply #122 on: January 03, 2022, 12:31:50 AM »
I am not an Ohio State guy, but despite that fact, I was glad to see Ohio State upheld some Big Ten dignity. 

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Re: Rose Post Game: #6 Ohio State 48, #11 Utah 45
« Reply #123 on: January 03, 2022, 10:31:12 AM »
this was probably discussed, but why not go for two after your frosh QB gets that TD with a couple minutes left?

probably didn't matter because the Bucks scored easily, but why prolong a game when you're star QB is on the bench?
I actually wondered the same thing and not just because the QB was out.  The second half had been an abject disaster for Utah.  

Here are Utah's second half drives including that TD:
  • 4 plays, 9 yards, fumble.  
  • 8 plays, 59 yards, FG.  
  • 8 plays, 40 yards, downs.  
  • 3 plays, 6 yards, Punt.  
  • 6 plays, 57 yards, TD.  
Comparatively, here are tOSU's drives to that point:
  • 4 plays, 53 yards, INT.  
  • 2 plays, 11 yards, TD.  
  • 11 plays, 76 yards, FG.  
  • 7 plays, 71 yards, TD.  
  • 9 plays, 85 yards, TD.  

If I were Kyle Whittingham I would have wanted to end that game as quickly as possible so I agree, I'd have gone for two.  


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Re: Rose Post Game: #6 Ohio State 48, #11 Utah 45
« Reply #124 on: January 03, 2022, 10:35:05 AM »
So, WOW! What a Game. What a Game.

Congrats to Utah and their faithful, they came out guns a blazing, scoring at will, flying around on defense, and I was thinking; "oh great TTUN part 2." They definitely deserved to be at the Rose Bowl and totally played like it was the most important game. Way to go Utah.

I was part of the camp that thought Stroud's numbers was inflated due to the dynamic receivers at his disposal. I was very worried about having Olave and Wilson sit out. And I did not expect record breaking days out of JSN and Stroud.

For the record: My complaint with Stroud has been how much worse he becomes when under duress. (I'm making up numbers here, but other "good" QB's pass 75% with a clean pocket, and 55% under duress; while Stroud passes 90% with a clean pocket and only 12% under duress.) The formula to beat OSU was easy; run block, and fluster Stroud. Then OSU offense became inert, TTUN did that to a "T". Stroud did much better on Saturday when under duress. Jaxon Smith-Njigba was super-human, we knew he was great, but we didn't know how he would perform as "the man". Hartline has done an amazing with the wide receiver group.

Can I complain about the Refs for a bit? I guess I don't know what holding is any more, but both D Lines, every play the Linemen were pulling their Jersey's back on because they were being held! But nothing was being called! For Utah's punt return OSU's 13 got blown up from behind. why wasn't that called back? And what was up with the phantom pass interference to extend Utah's last drive?!?! (Not the correct pass interference in the end zone the earlier one.) Also in the first half there was a call not made against Utah where the DB initiated contact and held OSU receiver. But on the very next possession, and even less egregious foul was called against OSU, where the Utah receiver initiated contact, held OSU's DB, and the DB didn't hold back, but a foul was still called against him. We also had a PI not called where the DB rode the wide receiver's jersey for 15 yards, slowing him up and everyone yelling for the PI but the refs was like "what???"

Injuries: It was good to see Utah's QB up and walking around after the game, I hope it was just concussion protocol that kept him out. So, wow Ransom's injury was nasty. I'm reading it's a fracture, and he should be able to fully recover, but will prolly miss spring ball.

Overall, I guess it's better to win this game than lose it, but the Buckeye Defense looked confused most of the 1st half, not sure what changed in the locker room, but they totally came out the 2nd half and played better. (I also think Utah got more conservative with a 2 score lead.) I was also impressed with Harrison Jr. Did Fleming really dislocated his shoulder and come back in?

Go Bucks, and hope you all enjoy the off season.
« Last Edit: January 03, 2022, 10:58:23 AM by TyphonInc »

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Re: Rose Post Game: #6 Ohio State 48, #11 Utah 45
« Reply #125 on: January 03, 2022, 10:58:33 AM »
Stroud was accurate as HELL in that game

looked better than Joe Burrow
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