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They had a good discussion on the Athletic college football podcast this week about whether it would be better to have a super league, and let the rest of the sport revert to their previous goals.  Ideally, sure.  But if that was the the case, the Group of 5 would already have their own playoff.  But they'd rather let their best team play in a random bowl game against a P5 team who finished 3rd in their league, without all of their NFL talent.  Appalachian State gave up winning FCS titles, to be in the Sun Belt.  Setting a new line, just makes anyone below that line want to be above it.

Sure a Purdue can still upset an Ohio State, but it doesn't matter anymore.  So that's where it hits me.  I distinctly remember playing touch football in my backyard, and my dad yelling to us that Indiana was tied with Ohio State.  We stopped the game, and watched it, due to the implications.  We've removed a good deal of those implications.  If Indiana beats OSU, OSU can still beat UM and PSU, reach the CCG, where they will likely win, and go to the CFP.  The sport needs a 2 team title game, and meaningful bowl games, based upon merit, not sales.

Forcing people to care about bowl games is past.  But if you tied bowl games to record, and then tied tangible benefits to both qualifying and winning bowl games, now you have something.  Like qualifying for a better bowl gave you additional recruiting time, or scholarships, and then winning that game gave you even more?  Now those games have a meaning.  And if you are fine with bowls just being meaningless, then you are also fine with 99% of college football games being meaningless

Who was hosting? I have a guess, and while I like the make, his perspective is … complicated.

Who was hosting? I have a guess, and while I like the make, his perspective is … complicated.

Ari Wasserman.

And the last paragraph is my own idea, he didn't suggest that

Isn’t Miami really kind of a fluke though?  Smallish private school, no history at all prior to the 80’s, rises to prominence and had some questionable recruiting practices ( along with a lot of other programs I might add). Sure they won big in the 80’s and for a few years in the early 2000’s, but does anybody really think they can reclaim any kind of superstar future moving forward? 

I'd guess they are one elite coach away from being relevant again.  The kind that grows on trees ...

I'd guess they are one elite coach away from being relevant again.  The kind that grows on trees ...

I wouldn't call Dennis Erickson or Larry Coker elite coaches by any stretch.

They just recruited Dade and Broward counties and admissions would take anybody in.

Admissions no longer does that at Miami, by the way. Donna Shalala turned that around.

I still think an elite coach would  turn them around, even if they could do well with a cheating mediocrity.

Sure a Purdue can still upset an Ohio State, but it doesn't matter anymore.  So that's where it hits me.  I distinctly remember playing touch football in my backyard, and my dad yelling to us that Indiana was tied with Ohio State.  We stopped the game, and watched it, due to the implications.  We've removed a good deal of those implications.  If Indiana beats OSU, OSU can still beat UM and PSU, reach the CCG, where they will likely win, and go to the CFP.  

There is something here that I want to expand upon.  IIRC, you grew up in Michigan as a Michigan Fan and in a Michigan fan household so when Indiana was tied with Ohio State, that didn't involve your team.  My guess is that your childhood touch football game in Michigan was with a bunch of Michigan fans with *MAYBE* an MSU or ND fan or two sprinkled in so NOBODY involved in this story was a fan of either Indiana or Ohio State.  Despite that, you dropped your game and ran inside to watch the IU/tOSU game because it was a REALLY big deal.  The potential of Ohio State losing to Indiana was HUGE because it would rearrange not only the league title picture but the national title picture as well.  

This is where expanding the playoff to two (BCS) then four (current) and soon 12 is necessarily detrimental to the regular season.  If a bunch of kids in Michigan are playing touch football next year and Indiana is tied with Ohio State why would they care?  Their teams aren't involved and even if Ohio State loses to Indiana that only marginally decreases their chances to win the league and the NC.  

For me, just flipping channels I've done a similar thing.  In the past when any highly ranked team from any league was in a close game, I'd flip to it because it was important.  

The top two teams this year have such ridiculous schedules that it is unlikely but lets say that Georgia or Michigan has a crappy game and their opponent plays out-of-their-minds and the Dawgs or Wolverines end up in a dogfight late in the fourth quarter with Ball State or Bowling Green.  In the old days that would have been monumentally important because a loss like that would more-or-less  have eliminated them from the NC race.  Every fan in the country would have, per your example, dropped their touch football game and run inside to see if the Cardinals/Falcons could pull off the upset.  Now, who cares?   Even after losing to BallSt/BGSU, the Dawgs/Wolverines would still absolutely control their own NC destiny.  Win out, win the SECCG/B1GGC, and you are absolutely in even the 4-team CFP despite an embarrassingly ugly upset loss to BallSt/BGSU.  

Kirby Smart played for Georgia!!

Yeah....I know. Don't mean shit. Jeem played at Michigan. And his ass is bout to go straight back to the NFL here soon. Kirby will go to the NFL if he wants it and the NFL wants it. Not sure the NFL will ever want it....