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OrangeAfroMan

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Revisiting best 2-loss teams of All-Time
« on: February 02, 2025, 08:34:23 PM »
PRIME OFF-SEASON FODDER!

Thanks to the expanded playoff, we're about to get a bunch more all-time great teams that happen to have multiple losses.

2024 Ohio State!!!

Teams like 1990 Miami, because of what they did to Texas, 2001 Florida, because duh, 2007 LSU as a NC, and many MANY others.

What are some of yours again?  Share if you've shared a team before or if there's another you think of, share them.

88 Auburn allowed only 7.4 ppg.  In their 2 losses, they allowed a total of 20 points. 

14 Oregon had an all-time great offense.  Maybe a perfect offense.  And lost twice.

In 08, from that 3-way tie in the Big XII South, both Texas Tech and OU finished with 2 losses each. 

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Re: Revisiting best 2-loss teams of All-Time
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2025, 09:34:47 AM »
2002 USC.  Took both losses in September, probably playing better than OSU or Miami by the end.

Won 45 of 46 after taking that 2nd loss
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Re: Revisiting best 2-loss teams of All-Time
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2025, 06:45:04 PM »
Quote from: ELA on February 03, 2025, 09:34:47 AM
2002 USC.  Took both losses in September, probably playing better than OSU or Miami by the end.

Won 45 of 46 after taking that 2nd loss
This would be a good poll.....when ranking teams at the end of the season, does it matter if they're "hot" or maybe lost early and look like world-beaters by the end?  Or are the final rankings simply ranking their seasons as a whole?
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Re: Revisiting best 2-loss teams of All-Time
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2025, 06:45:31 PM »
Quote from: ELA on February 03, 2025, 09:34:47 AM
2002 USC.  Took both losses in September, probably playing better than OSU or Miami by the end.

Won 45 of 46 after taking that 2nd loss
This situation reminds me of the Georgia team that waxed the Colt Brennan Hawai'i team in the Sugar.  
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Re: Revisiting best 2-loss teams of All-Time
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2025, 06:52:39 PM »
I hate losing the urgency of the regular season, but I think it took us exactly one year to realize that the 12 team playoff will likely always result in the best team winning the title.  Some talking head calls them "Dr. Pepper Games", and the better team generally wins that game.  Football ain't basketball.  We aren't going to get "fluky" results like we get in the basketball tournament.  We are just going to give the most talented team second, third, fourth chances to prove it.
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Re: Revisiting best 2-loss teams of All-Time
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2025, 07:52:04 PM »
Uhhh, are you joking?  I'm assuming you're joking.
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Re: Revisiting best 2-loss teams of All-Time
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2025, 07:54:42 PM »
you don't think tOSU was the best team?
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Re: Revisiting best 2-loss teams of All-Time
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2025, 08:33:56 PM »
I think that when the playoff started, like 5 teams had a 15-20% chance at the NC.  Oregon could very well be the best team and had an off-day.  

Regardless of what happened this year, I don't find it any more likely that the "best team" is going to routinely win the NC in this format.
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Re: Revisiting best 2-loss teams of All-Time
« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2025, 09:01:16 PM »
the bucks may have had an off day vs the ducks the first time around

after all the games have been played, what team has the best resume?
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Re: Revisiting best 2-loss teams of All-Time
« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2025, 09:16:25 PM »
I was looking at Bama teams first. 

That 2013 team was really, really good. Only lost the kick six game and the “SEC not trying” invitational in a bowl shootout. 

The 2019 team was pretty feisty. Lost Tua, we’re good with Mac Jones, only dropped games to that LSU steam roller and in a shootout to Auburn with a couple pick sixes. 

And the 2021 team that lost of UGA was really, really good. But they lost their top two receivers by some point in the national title game
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Re: Revisiting best 2-loss teams of All-Time
« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2025, 10:29:48 PM »
OSU was clearly the best team.  The more chances we give the best team, particularly in "Dr. Pepper games" the more often thats going to sort itself out.  If we wanted a meaningful regular season, we would have just let Oregon and Georgia play each other
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Re: Revisiting best 2-loss teams of All-Time
« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2025, 10:35:59 PM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on February 03, 2025, 09:16:25 PM
I was looking at Bama teams first.

That 2013 team was really, really good. Only lost the kick six game and the “SEC not trying” invitational in a bowl shootout.

The 2019 team was pretty feisty. Lost Tua, we’re good with Mac Jones, only dropped games to that LSU steam roller and in a shootout to Auburn with a couple pick sixes.

And the 2021 team that lost of UGA was really, really good. But they lost their top two receivers by some point in the national title game
I kind of assumed we were talking 2 pre-postseason losses  
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Re: Revisiting best 2-loss teams of All-Time
« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2025, 10:51:51 PM »
Quote from: ELA on February 03, 2025, 10:35:59 PM
I kind of assumed we were talking 2 pre-postseason losses 
He mentioned 2014 Oregon and 2008 OU in the OP. 
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Re: Revisiting best 2-loss teams of All-Time
« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2025, 10:57:30 PM »
Who were the worst 2-loss teams of all time? 
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