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Topic: Revenge Tour for the Law Firm of Franklin & Day (SOC Rd. 2)

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Gigem

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Re: Revenge Tour for the Law Firm of Franklin & Day (SOC Rd. 2)
« Reply #210 on: January 06, 2025, 01:19:10 PM »
I work with a lot of PSU alums (deep here in Tx) and they're all pretty solid people, smart, and hard working.  We gave them a lot of shit for a few years after the Sandusky scandal, but I don't think many people think of that much any more.  It's kind of like Michael Jacksons legacy, the longer he stays dead the better it gets (FWIW I don't think Sandusky is dead, but Joe Pa is).  

They've been a very solid program for a long time, several chances to play for the MNC over the last 20-30 years, very tough and workmanlike program.  

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« Reply #211 on: January 06, 2025, 01:20:31 PM »
People on the west coast HATE USC. Arrogant pricks (that have won a lot).

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« Reply #212 on: January 06, 2025, 01:24:20 PM »
People on the west coast HATE USC. Arrogant pricks (that have won a lot).
I'm obviously not on the west coast, but my impression of USC is that they were very average to below average in the 90's, very good to great in the mid-2000's, and then back to average to below average from about 2010 until now.  

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« Reply #213 on: January 06, 2025, 01:31:45 PM »
I'm obviously not on the west coast, but my impression of USC is that they were very average to below average in the 90's, very good to great in the mid-2000's, and then back to average to below average from about 2010 until now. 
And yet they still just ooze unearned arrogance.  Not unlike Texas fans over the same stretches...

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« Reply #214 on: January 06, 2025, 01:33:27 PM »
And yet they still just ooze unearned arrogance.  Not unlike Texas fans over the same stretches...
Very few, if any, USC fans here.  Never worked with any alumni or near-alumni, which would be somewhat expected given their private-school west coast location.  I'm sure they factor heavily into tech etc, so maybe you work with or know a bunch of them but nary a one in the chemical business.  

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« Reply #215 on: January 06, 2025, 01:39:20 PM »
Nah I don't know any USC fans/alum from the engineering world.  Do they even have an engineering school?

I know a couple who are parents of my kids' friends at school.  But they're actually really nice folks who don't even seem to know college football exists.

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« Reply #216 on: January 06, 2025, 01:41:40 PM »
Nah I don't know any USC fans/alum from the engineering world.  Do they even have an engineering school?

I know a couple who are parents of my kids' friends at school.  But they're actually really nice folks who don't even seem to know college football exists.
So now I'm really confused.  If you don't know any, how can they be arrogant?  

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« Reply #217 on: January 06, 2025, 01:42:18 PM »
So now I'm really confused.  If you don't know any, how can they be arrogant? 
Internet fans, of course. :)

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« Reply #218 on: January 06, 2025, 02:01:10 PM »
People on the west coast HATE USC. Arrogant pricks (that have won a lot).
They don't call it the University of Spoiled Children for nothing...

One of the hate things about USC was also the bandwagon fans. Especially for the long period of time that LA was without a pro team. It's a tiny private school full of rich kids, but the many, many people sporting USC gear who not only couldn't get admitted but couldn't afford it if they did are annoying. They're arrogant fans of something they have no relation to. 

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« Reply #219 on: January 06, 2025, 02:07:54 PM »
Very few, if any, USC fans here.  Never worked with any alumni or near-alumni, which would be somewhat expected given their private-school west coast location.  I'm sure they factor heavily into tech etc, so maybe you work with or know a bunch of them but nary a one in the chemical business. 
Nah I don't know any USC fans/alum from the engineering world.  Do they even have an engineering school?
I think they have an engineering school, but it's nothing of note. 

In fact, my son is looking at colleges now and wants to go into engineering (likely nuclear), and there are people on his mom's side of the family suggesting he apply to USC. Uhh, no. Not a school worth going to for engineering. It'd be a complete waste of money. 

USC is really good for degrees where networking at the undergraduate level is really important, like business school. And it's a good place to go for med school or law school. Or to go get an MBA if you're in tech.

But it's not factored into tech in any meaningful way. Stanford is the elite West Coast private school for that one... 

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« Reply #220 on: January 06, 2025, 02:08:39 PM »
University of Spoiled Children. University of Second Choice. University of Sucking C#*+. I'm sure people more clever than me (and closer to Pac-10 rivalries than me) have more.

My recollection is that USC does not have a college of engineering, but, of course, offers degrees in engineering. My recollection could be wrong.

It's true, the 90s were not especially kind to USC, but they have been the dominant program in Pac-10 football over the history of that once great conference ("of champions"). And can you imagine the level of slime that oozed around that program with Pete Carroll in charge (and returning SC to it's winning ways)? Oof. That was hard for Pac-10ers (12 by then, I suppose) and your average ND fan to take. Then add that stoopit freaking song their band plays ad naseum throughout their games. Grrrrrr. I suspect that if you were to poll Pac-10 fans you would find their level of disdain for USC is similar to that for Alabama in the South and Ohio State and Notre Dame in the midwest.

It's funny, not having spent a lot of time in Texas, I don't have a good sense for how people feel about it, but it's easy for me to imagine.

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Re: Revenge Tour for the Law Firm of Franklin & Day (SOC Rd. 2)
« Reply #221 on: January 06, 2025, 02:14:28 PM »
Just did a quick search, my recollection is wrong: SC does have a college of engineering. But BRAD is correct, if you're looking for an elite engineering university in the West its Stanford, CalTech, and Cal, then probably UCLA and UCSD. Similarly, the schools of business are Stanford and Cal, then everyone else (USC is probably near the top of the everyone else).

USC does have very strong media/entertainment/arts offerings, and its architecture program is very well thought of. 

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« Reply #222 on: January 06, 2025, 02:21:02 PM »
Oh yeah, Stanford is tops on the West Coast for Tech and Engineering, for sure.  I've worked with several Stanford grads, most of them were fine, although one of them was hands-down the worst engineer I've ever encountered in the professional field.


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Re: Revenge Tour for the Law Firm of Franklin & Day (SOC Rd. 2)
« Reply #223 on: January 06, 2025, 02:23:56 PM »
I think they have an engineering school, but it's nothing of note.

In fact, my son is looking at colleges now and wants to go into engineering (likely nuclear), and there are people on his mom's side of the family suggesting he apply to USC. Uhh, no. Not a school worth going to for engineering. It'd be a complete waste of money.
Bang for your buck, the UCs are far superior (Cal, UCLA, UCSD, and UC-Davis, at least), and Cal Poly SLO is, too (that's probably the best bang for your buck). Stanford and CalTech are far superior when it comes to the sparkle of the degree, although I'm sure much harder to get into than SC.
You may appreciate hearing that a friend of my eldest's is at Purdue for engineering and is loving it. He's got a job in the LA area that he did last summer and probably this coming summer--it seems they are already recruiting him for post-college (he's in his sophomore year).

 

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