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Topic: Retirement / What am I working for?

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Gigem

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« Reply #378 on: December 04, 2024, 11:18:41 AM »
365 days until 5-0.  Not saying I'm done at 50, but that's my minimum.  

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« Reply #379 on: December 04, 2024, 11:23:50 AM »
Happy birthday.
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« Reply #380 on: December 04, 2024, 11:51:19 AM »
Happy Birthday!
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« Reply #381 on: December 04, 2024, 12:45:39 PM »
Thanks guys ! 

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« Reply #382 on: December 04, 2024, 12:49:18 PM »
Happy BD!

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« Reply #383 on: December 04, 2024, 01:00:42 PM »
Enjoy Gigem,hey 94 tomorrow is your original Beer Thread B-Day (2005).Remember because we were all killing time before the Bowls and the epic USC/UT match up.Would have forgot but saw this. There was some USC troll making the rounds and Hooky referred to Pete Carrol as Lady Clairol to that guy - good times.Be nice if we could find that thread in cyber space, and the whole damn CFB News Boards for that matter
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« Reply #384 on: December 04, 2024, 01:03:19 PM »
Enjoy Gigem,hey 94 tomorrow is your original Beer Thread B-Day (2005).Remember because we were all killing time before the Bowls and the epic USC/UT match up.Would have forgot but saw this. There was some USC troll making the rounds and Hooky referred to Pete Carrol as Lady Clairol to that guy - good times.Be nice if we could find that thread in cyber space, and the whole damn CFB News Boards for that matter
Amen, brutha! I recall that you always remember that date.  Will have to go post something on the Beer Thread to commemorate.

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« Reply #385 on: December 04, 2024, 01:12:58 PM »
Proof that Beer consumption is good for retaining important information
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« Reply #386 on: December 04, 2024, 02:41:52 PM »
Happy Birthday Gigem! It's like we blink and these big milestone birthdays hit us before we know it. Hope it's a great year for you!!

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« Reply #387 on: March 31, 2025, 10:39:36 AM »
Maybe some of the older-timers here can relate to this one? As an ‘older millennial’ born in the latter half of the 80s, I’m junior to more than a few managers who are approaching seventy, and who won’t retire. Although retirement is 90% of their shop talk.

What’s behind the mindset to continue working when you financially (or otherwise) no longer need to work?

More specifically, my Dad is well into his seventies and still working. He doesn’t financially need to work. In fact, it would be better for his health if he stopped working, but he disagrees. He says work is how he values himself. Without work, he says, he doesn’t think he’ll think much of himself. I counter this by pointing out how a non-working routine can be built to occupy himself in a satisfying way. I use myself as an example. When Covid restrictions sidelined my industry for four months before my employer could reassign me to work out of state, I caught up on books I’d been meaning to read, exercised outside (gyms closed), journaled, visited beaches in the area that I hadn’t made time for, and played video games for the first time since I was a teenager. It was such a satisfying experience that I wouldn’t miss my job if I lost it, knowing there’s plenty else out there worth my focus. My Dad says work is where he finds meaning. I’m left asking whether he can train his sense of meaning to be found outside of having a job and shifted to habits like reading or traveling.

Thing is my Dad has enough going on outside of work to absorb his time more fully if he leaned more into those other areas. He has a Baptist church through which he also involves himself in volunteer work. He swims regularly at the country club, has group calls with his circle of college friends who’ve kept in touch for decades, has kept up with photography as a hobby, attends his grandkids extracurricular events like piano recitals, shoots his rifles at the desert ranges with buddies, campaigns for Arizona politicians he likes, visits the neighborhood farmer’s market on Saturday mornings, and attends operas monthly, a subject he studies on the side.

We both have plenty to build on outside of work. My Uncle on the other hand does not. He is a medical doctor practicing in East Texas with his own clinic. He has more than enough savings to comfortably stop working. Yet, he works despite his declining health making it harder for him to work, and my Dad defends him, saying “work is all he has.” And that’s the sad truth, my Uncle has worked himself into this corner, and recently it’s taken a turn for the worse. Several times his medical assistants have had him ambulanced to the county hospital after he lost consciousness while treating patients. He refuses his physician’s advice (and mine!) to retire. It’s gotten to the point where the Texas medical board is not likely to renew his medical license without a hearing.

I can’t imagine continuing to work if I didn’t have to. There’s nothing to miss about my job, and there’s so much else to do and see. How do so many folks get institutionalized to their job?

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« Reply #388 on: March 31, 2025, 11:04:57 AM »
I'm going to be 63 in July, was hoping to work my previous job until 65 for the health insurance.
I was let go a couple weeks ago unexpectedly

I'm trying to decide if I should take another job for 2 or 3 or 4 more years or retire.
I can retire comfortably now.

Work isn't how I value myself.  My career isn't all I have but the friendships and relationships are a large part of my life.
I do have plenty of friends outside work.  I live in the area I was born & raised.  Still get together with high school classmates from the class of 1981.
I don't have a lot of other things going on in my life to keep me busy.  (Golf, drinking, and this place)
I will get bored in a hurry when the golf course closes in November.

I will take another job to keep myself busy, thinking, and get out of the house.
Interacting & being social with friends through work
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« Reply #389 on: March 31, 2025, 11:10:51 AM »
My parents are now in their 80s.  I think folks in their 70s might be similar, and for their generation, they derived a lot of sense of purpose from their jobs.  It is very tied up in their core being, in a lot of ways.  I don't think subsequent generations feel the same, for the most part, but for them it was pretty important.  My mom retired from the State at 65 but kept working in private industry until she was 75, and my dad worked for his company of 30+ years until he was 80.


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« Reply #390 on: March 31, 2025, 11:11:09 AM »
I do think this is a very common American thing to value work/career so highly, as well as a generational thing. I think to an extent it's part of a particularly American ethos. I.e. when you meet someone new, one of the first questions that comes up is "what do you do?", and everyone everywhere in this country knows that the unspoken continuation is "for work?"

I think in some ways it's very similar to the common situation when a spouse dies. In that generation (and before), men did little to nothing to provide for themselves around the house. So if the husband dies first, the wife goes on for a decade+ because she's found ways to keep herself busy for the last 50 years, and she'll find something to keep herself busy afterwards. If the wife dies first, the man deteriorates quickly because suddenly he doesn't know what to do with himself (or how to do it). Often unless family steps in to help the transition, it goes that way.

I watched one of my golf buddies go through this (the retirement, not the spousal death thing) recently. We started playing golf together when I got back into the game because he was a coworker that I knew was into golf. About 2ish years ago during the downturn my company offered a voluntary separation thing, and he ended up taking it. For about 6 months he kept talking about looking for another job, and eventually that just ceased. He's got adult children (one of which still works at our company and we play golf with) who now have young grandchildren. His wife had been helping them out, but now that he's retired she's doing a bunch of church stuff and he watches the grandkids 4 days a week. He loves it! Can't imagine going back to work at this point. Feels like he's finally got the opportunity to do the things he missed out on. 

For your Dad, just speculating is that he's simply afraid. He's known the work for decades. Going into retirement is a great unknown. Sounds from your description like he's got plenty that would keep him busy, and he'd probably thrive, but HE doesn't know that. And again a generational thing, the one thing that a man of that age will NEVER admit to you is fear/anxiety. I think maybe you Millennials are in the goldilocks range of emotional maturity (the Gen Zers are the other end of the spectrum), but even as a late Gen Xer, I'm ingrained with the "don't admit fear/weakness/etc emotionally, to anyone, EVER" thing... It's probably unhealthy and destructive, but... It's all I know lol...

For your uncle? I don't know... I think sometimes it's a little different with doctors. My wife's now-retired gyno was someone that had been doing it for a long time (he delivered her, actually). He was old, well past traditional retirement age, but didn't want to retire when he did. He was an "old school" doctor who largely got pushed out by the modern medical machine, but I think for him he just really enjoyed helping people. He was in good health, and now I think he's gone on to travel, etc. But for your uncle who maybe has some health problems that might stop him from having a thriving life in retirement, AND taking away perhaps his only reason for meaning? It's possible IMHO that retirement would hasten his decline, rather than slowing it. 

Anyway, just spitballing here... 

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« Reply #391 on: March 31, 2025, 12:40:16 PM »
For your Dad, just speculating is that he's simply afraid. He's known the work for decades. Going into retirement is a great unknown. 
perhaps not fear, but the unknown
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