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Topic: Retirement / What am I working for?

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utee94

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Re: Retirement / What am I working for?
« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2023, 06:22:18 PM »
I also own rental real estate and my wife manages it (no super expensive properties, just a bunch of small to medium ones).  Not enough to live on, but enough to help pay for stuff if needed. 

I really don't mind my corporate life, and I am now blessed to have a good work-life balance.  My job is OK, I don't despise going to work but just like everybody else sometimes I get tired of updating spreadsheets and making sure the TPS report is tidied up. 

But what I'm really asking about is what kind of benefits do you have in retirement?  I looked at mine, and while I do have some, they're not great.  So I really am not sure what I'm staying for.  I always thought I'd retire in my mid to late 50's, but even if I stayed and did that I don't think the benefits would be all that great.  #1 is health insurance until I make it to Medicare. 

Retirement benefits?  Not sure what that even means. :)

Pensions were long gone in my field well before I entered the work force.  Our 401K has a decent company match, that's all I got, aside from what I do on my own.

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« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2023, 06:53:59 PM »
Oh, don’t get me wrong. Corporate America has been good to me as well and I have been fortunate to be surrounded by really good people.

Unfortunately, in the financial industry, the concept of pensions died back in the 80s and 90s.  

I am older than you ( 62) and have been in the industry for 37 years (since 86). So I have been saving for retirement for a long time. And invested conservatively while living through the ups and downs of the market. 

To your question- how am I situated. 

The bad news is there are virtually no benefits other than my 401K which is in decent shape- but no health or medical etc. 

The good news is- I could pull the trigger right now and live comfortably ( no where near current income level). But because I have paid off my house and have no real debt, we would be fine.  Kids are grown and fully financially independent. 

But I currently have a pretty good work life balance because since the pandemic I’ve been working from home, and I am lucky to be in a more strategic job. My value is my experience and it’s kind of fun using that every day to help people get things done and get better at what they do. so I’ll probably keep doing it for another year or two 

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« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2023, 07:58:21 PM »

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But what I'm really asking about is what kind of benefits do you have in retirement? 
I work for the state and have a pension. It has reduced payouts for early retirement, which means I'm probably not thinking about it for another 15 years or so. 

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« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2023, 08:11:34 PM »
The penalty for cashing out our retirement early is substantial.  As in you'd get like 25% of the actual money that's sitting in it at the moment. 
I understand some penalty, but jesus christ.
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« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2023, 10:27:00 PM »
I assumed every Texas A&M alum was just working to pay the NIL of an overrated 5* recruit or the buyout of a coach just mailing it in for a paycheck :57:

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« Reply #19 on: November 05, 2023, 10:32:33 PM »
But, seriously, I don't know.  I'm 39, with 3 kids.  We have been saving for college since the first one, who is now 10 and 1/2, was born, and we could maybe pay for one year of college for one of them. The thought of retirement is comical

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« Reply #20 on: November 06, 2023, 07:59:22 AM »
I think it's useful to have a realistic retirement goal, taking inflation into consideration.  A good first step, usually, is to pay off any debt.  Your house can serve as a retirement asset if it's paid off or nearly so.  If you pay off a car loan, start putting $150 or so each month into a "car account" so you pay off the next one ahead of time.  And I realize for anyone living close to the edge this isn't practicable advice.  I've been there.

A reason I took the job I did was their retirement plan.  It was generous, not a pension, but the company bought stock (in the company) for us each year.  I knew secretaries who worked there 30 years who had well over a million, which was real money back then.  A problem with state pensions can be that the pensions are in deep water (Illinois) and won't be able to pay much in the future, Social Security is in the same boat to an extent.  But even if not fixed, SS would be able to pay about 75% of current benefits, so I don't view it as "I'll never see a dime" kind of thing (I am on it now.).

It's useful not to consider SS until you start getting it though.  And of course the amount you get is based on 35 years of salary where you paid FICA.  

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« Reply #21 on: November 06, 2023, 08:18:56 AM »
I didn't know state workers don't get SS.  Found that out about 6 months ago.
Would have been nice to know 20 years ago.  

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« Reply #22 on: November 06, 2023, 08:21:23 AM »
How State and Local Government Employees are Covered by Social Security and Medicare (ssa.gov)

At one time, Social Security didn’t include any of these employees. Over the years, the law changed. Most employees have Social Security protection, because their states have special agreements with us called “Section 218 agreements.” Congress passed a law in July 1991 extending Social Security on a mandatory basis to most state and local employees. These are employees not covered by an agreement or a Social Security equivalent public pension system. 

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« Reply #23 on: November 06, 2023, 08:25:15 AM »
The penalty for cashing out our retirement early is substantial.  As in you'd get like 25% of the actual money that's sitting in it at the moment. 
I understand some penalty, but jesus christ.
Get deferred payments for sure rather than one lump sum. The assholes could at least have the common decency of waving a gun in your face 1st before takiing a 1/3 rd
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Re: Retirement / What am I working for?
« Reply #24 on: November 06, 2023, 08:45:42 AM »
I didn't know state workers don't get SS.  Found that out about 6 months ago.
Where did you hear this?  Do you a line that says FICA in your pacycheck stub?

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« Reply #26 on: November 06, 2023, 09:01:32 AM »
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