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Topic: Big Ten Football Home Scheduling

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ELA

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Re: Big Ten Football Home Scheduling
« Reply #42 on: August 19, 2025, 11:01:03 AM »
It also doesn't look bad by modern standards, but scheduling was different back then.  IIRC the first time in my life Michigan played a non-power conference team was Miami(Ohio) in 1995.  They were at least the best team in the MAC.  2 years later they played EMU, and I remember my dad saying they shouldn't even include that game in the season ticket package.

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Re: Big Ten Football Home Scheduling
« Reply #43 on: August 19, 2025, 11:57:13 AM »
yup, looks like Hayden got his scheduling worked out in 85 - probably had those early 5 seasons already scheduled when he took the job
Yes,  things changed in Iowa's schedule starting in 1985.  Although the non-conference was not easy every year. 1987  and 1992 were both years where Iowa play 4 non-conference regular season games against P4 equivalent schools. 

Although to be fair,  both Iowa St and Kansas St were considered awful during that time.  But Iowa also played both Miami-Florida and Colorado in one year in 1992, who had both recently won national championships. So Hayden did not mind a tough schedule every now and again, at least until 1992.

I would say Iowa flat out gave up trying to make a tough schedule around 1995,  which was the first year they played Northern Iowa.  Still, even in Haydens last year in 1998, Iowa played both Arizona and Iowa St in non-conference.  So playing 2 P4 equivalent schools in non-conference was still the norm then.

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Re: Big Ten Football Home Scheduling
« Reply #44 on: August 19, 2025, 12:01:56 PM »
The timing of the advent of body bag games correlates with the NCAA losing control of TV rights. Which led to a massive influx of money into the teams and conferences, which led, inexorably, to the state of the game now. It's almost as if turning the sport into a bigger money maker made everyone focus more on how to make more money.

I'm not an NCAA apologist--there was plenty wrong with the way the NCAA did things back then, and the product is probably better now--but these things appear related.

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Re: Big Ten Football Home Scheduling
« Reply #45 on: August 19, 2025, 12:11:30 PM »
I had not realized when real pastries started showing up on schedules OOC.  I was scanning the UGA slates in the 60s and the opponents were pretty solid, P5 kinds of teams, they played VMI one year.  In 1985, they played Baylor, Clemson, South Carolina, and GaTech.  In 1986, Richmond showed up, 1988 William and Mary, 1990 Eastern Carolina, so they edged into one clear pastry a year OOC.  Today it's 2 or 3.  1991 they played Cal State Fullerton and Western Carolina, so there it started.

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Re: Big Ten Football Home Scheduling
« Reply #46 on: August 19, 2025, 01:13:28 PM »
yup, before TV money happened they relied on butts in seats and ticket sales for revenue
scheduling cupcakes didn't equate to decent ticket prices or sales
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Re: Big Ten Football Home Scheduling
« Reply #47 on: August 19, 2025, 02:25:54 PM »
TV simultaneously made everything better and also completely ruined college football.

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Re: Big Ten Football Home Scheduling
« Reply #48 on: August 19, 2025, 03:25:15 PM »
TV simultaneously made everything better and also completely ruined college football.
Wow, just wow.  I don't even know how to top that.  End thread.

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Re: Big Ten Football Home Scheduling
« Reply #49 on: August 19, 2025, 05:48:23 PM »
well, TV money ruined CFB

TV coverage alone would have been OK
I think
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Re: Big Ten Football Home Scheduling
« Reply #50 on: August 19, 2025, 05:51:01 PM »


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Re: Big Ten Football Home Scheduling
« Reply #51 on: August 20, 2025, 10:53:36 AM »
As far as body-bag games are concerned it is the same story for Ohio State that others have shared here.  A good example is to look at the four times that Ohio State played Oklahoma:

Ohio State and Oklahoma had a home-and-home separated by six years in 1977 and 1983 then another in 2016/2017.  Curiously the road team is 4-0 in those games with the Buckeyes owning two wins in Norman and the Sooners owning two wins in Columbus.  Anyway, here are Ohio State's other OOC games from each of those years:

  • 1977:  Miami, FL; SMU
  • 1983:  Oregon - The Buckeyes only had two OOC games because the league was doing a full, 9-game round-robin
  • 2016:  BGSU, Tulsa
  • 2017:  Army, UNLV


 

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