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Re: OT: Tech Nerd Thread
« Reply #126 on: April 21, 2025, 12:48:41 PM »
I didn't even know what that meant, and I still don't, really.
They were used for floating-point arithmetic. As you can imagine, computers only deal in 1s and 0s. The processors of the time didn't have dedicated silicon for advanced arithmetic. Which means they had to essentially use software algorithms to do any complex mathematical operation. And software is much slower than dedicated hardware inside the chip for these operations.  

So if you didn't have a math coprocessor (FPU), your computer could still do all those calculations, entirely in software. Which wasn't fast enough for those games. If you had the FPU, then it would simply route all those instructions to the FPU, and you had plenty of performance for games. 

Now, as you mention, any modern processor will have that function built in.

For modern computers, the analogy would be the graphics cards (or GPUs) needed for games. Essentially the same thing--complex graphics rendering takes an extraordinary amount of computing power to emulate in software. But if you can have dedicated silicon that do the necessary functions in hardware, you can not only get it done quickly but leave the main processor (CPU) to use its resources on other things. 

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But... Fun story. In 2001, in my first job out of school, I worked for a company that produced programmable logic (FPGA) chips. These were "general" chips full of logic that you could use to map out complex logic and still have it run "in hardware", which was important for MANY functions if you needed the speed of hardware but whatever you were doing didn't lend itself to actually having the dedicated chips designed and fabricated to do it. 

Well, one of the things it had at the time was a software-designed (known as a soft core) embedded processor function. Meaning you could emulate a processor in the logic, and use it to run software as opposed to dedicated complex logic. As it was new, the company had an internal design competition to show ways to use the processor. The group I was in... Designed an FPU to go along with it as it didn't have one natively in the design. And we tested software processing of floating-point arithmetic vs our "coprocessor", and our FPU showed a 100-fold reduction in number of clock cycles to perform calculations compared to emulating it in software. 

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Re: OT: Tech Nerd Thread
« Reply #127 on: April 21, 2025, 01:10:04 PM »
I have no idea how you'd do it, but it would be neat to do a back of the napkin calculation on how much computing power your iPhone or Android has (in your pocket you carry everyday) versus the entire computing power of the world of a certain date.  

For example, without knowing all the specifics of the era, I can confidently say that my (aging) iPhone 13 has more computing power than existed in the entire world in 1950.  And probably also 1955.  1960-65, I would guess that I would still exceed the entire computing power of the world, but I'm not sure.  1970-75, I'd doubt it.  1980?  Probably not.  

I guess you'd have to estimate how much power a typical computer from back then had and then estimate how many systems they shipped etc.  I read somewhere awhile back that we make more data in one day than existed in the entire history of the world until about 2003.  This was a few years ago, so we might make more data in 1 hr than the rest of the world until 200x.  

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« Reply #128 on: April 21, 2025, 01:12:14 PM »
I have no idea how you'd do it, but it would be neat to do a back of the napkin calculation on how much computing power your iPhone or Android has (in your pocket you carry everyday) versus the entire computing power of the world of a certain date. 

For example, without knowing all the specifics of the era, I can confidently say that my (aging) iPhone 13 has more computing power than existed in the entire world in 1950.  And probably also 1955.  1960-65, I would guess that I would still exceed the entire computing power of the world, but I'm not sure.  1970-75, I'd doubt it.  1980?  Probably not. 

I guess you'd have to estimate how much power a typical computer from back then had and then estimate how many systems they shipped etc.  I read somewhere awhile back that we make more data in one day than existed in the entire history of the world until about 2003.  This was a few years ago, so we might make more data in 1 hr than the rest of the world until 200x. 
This is why bwar's employer exists and persists. :)


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Re: OT: Tech Nerd Thread
« Reply #129 on: April 21, 2025, 01:15:28 PM »
My wife has an iPhone 15 and says she took 3500 photos on our trip (in addition to the thousands she already had).  Just the storage for that many high res photos would be impressive.


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« Reply #130 on: April 21, 2025, 01:16:43 PM »
I find that when I take photos that I'm not in, it becomes super uninteresting.  Because you can pretty  much pull the same photos from any quick search.  I still take em, but they never look as good in person.  

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« Reply #131 on: April 21, 2025, 01:20:54 PM »
This is why bwar's employer exists and persists. :)

His company is just a front, so that when the aliens arrive, they'll have all our data, strengths and weaknesses, easily available for a much quicker and cleaner conquest and subjugation.  

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« Reply #132 on: April 21, 2025, 02:35:52 PM »
I read somewhere awhile back that we make more data in one day than existed in the entire history of the world until about 2003.  This was a few years ago, so we might make more data in 1 hr than the rest of the world until 200x. 
This is why bwar's employer exists and persists. :)
Yep. I think the factoid we recently used was that more data was created in the last 3 years than in the previous 3,000. 

And that the rate of annual data creation will almost triple between 2023 and 2029. 

Of course, a tremendous amount of that data is transitory and not stored long term. But the global installed data storage capacity is projected to double over that time frame as well. 

The advances in AI/ML increase the ability to extract value from stored data as well, so it should be accretive to the existing projections.

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Re: OT: Tech Nerd Thread
« Reply #133 on: April 29, 2025, 10:48:10 AM »
Question for some of you more tech-saavy types.  What is the deal lately where they will post clips from some TV show or movie and have the screen inverted or wavy lines or something running through the picture constantly?  Is this some sort of AI trickery work-around to keep the copyright violations at a minimum or what exactly is going on?  

 

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