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Brutus Buckeye

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« Reply #1974 on: April 25, 2024, 07:57:24 AM »
The northernmost, obviously. Though some of those lower New England states got excluded, even though they don't extend as far south as some of the others. 
1919, 20, 21, 28, 29, 31, 34, 35, 36, 37, 42, 44
WWH: 1952, 54, 55, 57, 58, 60, 61, 62, 63, 65, 67, 68, 70, 72, 74, 75
1979, 81, 82, 84, 87, 94, 98
2001, 02, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19

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« Reply #1975 on: April 25, 2024, 08:12:17 AM »
Where does this running back room rank with the best of all-time?

Gordon, Ball, White.


1982 - Roger Craig, Mike Rozier, Tom Rathman

1996 - Ricky Williams and Priest Holmes together was pretty great.  There really was no third in that group, though.  Shon Mitchell was a fast scat back kind of guy but wasn't ever going to set any records.

Of course,  as far as duos go, Barry Sanders and Thurman Thomas were pretty impressive.

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« Reply #1976 on: April 25, 2024, 08:22:34 AM »
Yep, lots of great duos for sure. But having three like that? It's unfair.
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« Reply #1977 on: April 25, 2024, 08:48:46 AM »
The best trio I can recall at UGA would be, probably, Chubb/Michel/Gurley, but the first two were freshmen at the time.  The best duo would be Chubb/Gurley, and they had D'Andre Swift with Chubb and Michel when they were seniors.  Another duo of note would be Sinkwich and Trippi.  It would have been rare until fairly recently to have three who got significant playing time, and today probably one or two would "portal".

I found these two trios mentioned on line:

1978 Auburn-Joe Cribbs, James Brooks, William Andrews-incredible

1996 Texas-Ricky Williams, Priest Holmes, Shon Mitchell. Mitchell is the fastest guy I have ever seen. Think of Ron Leflore with shoulder pads.



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« Reply #1978 on: April 25, 2024, 09:35:55 AM »
Shon Mitchell NFL Combine Stats ; Hand Size: 9.63 inches ; Wingspan: (N/A) inches ; Birthdate: (N/A) ; 40 Yard Dash: 4.62 seconds ; 40 Yard (MPH):, 17.71 (MPH)
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« Reply #1979 on: April 25, 2024, 09:38:04 AM »
NFL performance is the only way to assess this.

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« Reply #1980 on: April 25, 2024, 09:40:02 AM »
1996 Texas-Ricky Williams, Priest Holmes, Shon Mitchell. Mitchell is the fastest guy I have ever seen. Think of Ron Leflore with shoulder pads.
agreed, but I was addressing this claim
apparently, this dude didn't spend much time watching sports
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« Reply #1981 on: April 25, 2024, 09:43:39 AM »
I think everyone here should be smart enough to understand there's a difference between track speed and football speed.  Shon Mitchell was very fast with a football in his hands, but like I said he was never going to break any rushing records.  He was a good alternate back though.  

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« Reply #1982 on: April 25, 2024, 09:50:12 AM »
My guess is some players may LOOK fast on the field to the casual observer while having a 40 time of 4.67.

Nick Chubb didn't look fast unless he broke away and was being chased by some safety, then he looked pretty fast.  

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« Reply #1983 on: April 25, 2024, 09:53:03 AM »
My guess is some players may LOOK fast on the field to the casual observer while having a 40 time of 4.67.

Nick Chubb didn't look fast unless he broke away and was being chased by some safety, then he looked pretty fast. 
Maybe but from my own observations, many players that have "football speed" that doesn't necessarily show up in the 40 times, tend to be more dynamic runners that can change speed and direction more quickly then their counterparts.  They also tend to have better than average field vision and can plan their routes and make their cuts before defenders crash the lanes, so they appear fast by comparison.


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« Reply #1984 on: April 25, 2024, 09:58:07 AM »
Yeah, that's what I'm referring to, a player who looks fast on the field with a slow 40 time.  I once thought Barry had a slow 40 time, someone here corrected me.


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« Reply #1985 on: April 25, 2024, 10:00:40 AM »
I think everyone here should be smart enough to understand there's a difference between track speed and football speed.  Shon Mitchell was very fast with a football in his hands, but like I said he was never going to break any rushing records.  He was a good alternate back though. 
I can understand this statement

"the fastest guy I have ever seen"
cannot understand this statement
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« Reply #1986 on: April 25, 2024, 10:18:38 AM »
My guess is some players may LOOK fast on the field to the casual observer while having a 40 time of 4.67.

Nick Chubb didn't look fast unless he broke away and was being chased by some safety, then he looked pretty fast. 
Calvin Johnson was always that guy to me. Long loping stride and looked like he was jogging. But nobody could catch him from behind.

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« Reply #1987 on: April 25, 2024, 10:28:28 AM »
I can understand this statement

"the fastest guy I have ever seen"
cannot understand this statement
Add the implied "on the football field" or "with a football in his hands" and I don't see the issue.  Sounds more like you're just trying to kick up some controversy where there really is none.





 

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