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« Reply #1932 on: April 23, 2024, 08:48:22 AM »
"Progressives" need to move to Europe. They will find out they are not wanted in most places.
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« Reply #1933 on: April 23, 2024, 08:48:55 AM »
Pepsi turned itself into a snack company.  Most of their products aren't good for you.
Not good, but not terrible. They have some decent holdings.

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« Reply #1934 on: April 23, 2024, 09:00:43 AM »
"Progressives" need to move to Europe. They will find out they are not wanted in most places.
Our "progressive friends" were literally shocked when my wife stated, on being asked, she had no interested in living in France.  Oddly enough, none of them ever asked why.

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« Reply #1935 on: April 23, 2024, 09:02:52 AM »
Kodak, heh.

3M and P&G still listed. I think they are the only 2.
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« Reply #1936 on: April 23, 2024, 09:06:47 AM »
Dow 30 Chart

[th]SYMBOL [/th]
[th]NAME [/th]
[th]PRICE [/th]
[th]CHANGE [/th]
[th]%CHANGE [/th]
[th]LOW [/th]
[th]HIGH [/th]
[th]PREVIOUS CLOSE [/th]
AMZNAmazon.com Inc177.23+2.6+1.4900177.23
AXPAmerican Express Co233+1.96+0.8500233
AMGNAmgen Inc271.91+2.98+1.1100271.91
AAPLApple Inc165.84+0.84+0.5100165.84
BABoeing Co170.48+0.66+0.3900170.48
CATCaterpillar Inc357.61+2.95+0.8300357.61
CSCOCisco Systems Inc48.14-0.18-0.370048.14
CVXChevron Corp161.92+1.92+1.200161.92
GSGoldman Sachs Group Inc417.35+13.35+3.300417.35
HDHome Depot Inc336.11+0.75+0.2200336.11
HONHoneywell International Inc195.58+1.32+0.6800195.58
IBMInternational Business Machines Corp181.9+0.32+0.1800181.9
INTCIntel Corp34.41+0.21+0.610034.41
JNJJohnson & Johnson149.12+1.21+0.8200149.12
KOCoca-Cola Co60.55+0.38+0.630060.55
JPMJPMorgan Chase & Co189.41+3.61+1.9400189.41
MCDMcDonald’s Corp275.58+3.59+1.3200275.58
MMM3M Co92.62+0.35+0.380092.62
MRKMerck & Co Inc126.94+1.16+0.9200126.94
MSFTMicrosoft Corp400.96+1.84+0.4600400.96
NKENike Inc94.19-0.34-0.360094.19
PGProcter & Gamble Co160.54+2.4+1.5200160.54
TRVTravelers Companies Inc214.27+0.2+0.0900214.27
UNHUnitedHealth Group Inc491.23-9.9-1.9800491.23
CRMSalesforce Inc273.81+3.44+1.2700273.81
VZVerizon Communications Inc38.6-1.89-4.670038.6
VVisa Inc272.33+2.55+0.9500272.33
WMTWalmart Inc60.14+0.61+1.020060.14
DISWalt Disney Co111.99-0.62-0.5500111.99
DOWDow Inc56.99+0.33UNCH0056.99




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« Reply #1937 on: April 23, 2024, 09:07:37 AM »
 AT&T was kicked out in 2004 only to return the following year when it merged with SBC Communications. Created in 1896, the Dow is one of the oldest gauges of a stock wealth. When it was created, Grover Cleveland was U.S. president. Companies like the Pacific Mail Steamship were counted among its ranks.

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« Reply #1938 on: April 23, 2024, 09:08:26 AM »
sorry, saw the old chart and just figured AT&T was still a player

apparently Verizon is the big telecom company today
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« Reply #1939 on: April 23, 2024, 09:09:35 AM »
7 Dow Stocks That Didn't Survive the Decade | Kiplinger
7 Dow Stocks That Didn't Survive the Decade | Kiplinger

This was the 2010-2019 decade, seven members dropped out (including AT&T).  So, nearly a quarter faded in a decade.

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« Reply #1940 on: April 23, 2024, 09:10:31 AM »
So, it's clear a lot of companies don't keep growing and prospering like some runaway freight train.  It would be easier if they did.


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« Reply #1941 on: April 23, 2024, 10:02:24 AM »

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« Reply #1942 on: April 23, 2024, 10:13:50 AM »
So, it's clear a lot of companies don't keep growing and prospering like some runaway freight train.  It would be easier if they did.


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« Reply #1943 on: April 23, 2024, 10:16:02 AM »
I understand this, but does Coca-Cola not have quarterly predicted earnings and/or marginally-increased or maintained (depending on the financial environment) market share they need/want to meet/exceed?
Yes, like any corporation they're tracking various business targets that they want to meet or exceed. They're a global company so I'm sure they're looking at markets where they're not doing as well as others, and trying to grow. They're looking at stable markets and trying to defend share and profitability. They're looking at emerging threats from different categories (as Badge points out, they diversify their brands for this reason) to ensure they don't shrink. 

Business is really hard, because the instant you leave any opening, a competitor will fill it. 

But it's certainly not this:

The over-arching idea being that these entities are runaway locomotives that can't ever stop being runaway locomotives. 

The hyperbole of this statement suggests that a runaway locomotive's inevitable end is a fiery crash. The Coca-Cola Company was founded in 1892. 

It's a freight train, to be sure, but it's not a runaway. 

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« Reply #1944 on: April 23, 2024, 10:17:30 AM »
And clearly those that seem like "runaway freight trains" do stop being that at some point.  The entire premise is puerile.

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« Reply #1945 on: April 23, 2024, 11:42:18 AM »
I find a lot of folks, including highly educated folks, have no interest in investments.  They think it's "too hard" off the top of their heads, and just ignore it.  Some end up paying scalliwags to do it for them (I don't mean badgerfan in this).  Paying someone to manage your finances is fine, they should be "fiduciaries" who don't charge based on how many transactions they do in a year. Quite a few do that.

My ex mother in law had inherited a fairly large estate and had a local bank managing her funds, she asked me to look over her portolio, holy cow, it was a mess.

Anyway, I think it quite useful to learn at least some basics.  Obviously it starts, I think, with understanding credit cards and loans, student or otherwise.  The level of CC debt in the US is astounding, to me.  I've heard folks claim they go a raise but less take home pay because they moved into another tax bracket, which of course is impossible for that reason.  Then of course some folks just revile the "stock market" for being evil, or something, a play ground for the wealthy, which kind of ensures they won't even be that.

 

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