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« Reply #1330 on: November 06, 2023, 09:41:02 AM »
It depends also, as noted, on length of travel and purpose of visit.  I'll need at least a suit and dress shoes for Europe, maybe even the tux.  We'll need coats of course, it's February.  And it'll be over two weeks with no ready access to laundry, without spending vacation time on it.  At least on a cruise, we get one bag of laundry cleaned free, the second is $15.

My wife tends to think up all sorts of contingencies where she may need X Y and Q.


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« Reply #1331 on: November 06, 2023, 09:41:38 AM »
I saw some FB list of "Five best colognes for men".  I didn't click on it.

There is a list for everything I guess.

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« Reply #1332 on: November 06, 2023, 10:54:15 AM »
Yeah, you're the same age as my older sister (also '75), while I was '78. I do think there was a big difference, even between the two of us.

I don't think she interacted with the home computer much in high school except for word processing. So for her it was a fancy typewriter. In the one year she attended college (lol), I don't think it was very common for students to have their own PC yet. But by my freshman year, it was very common. And then email was JUST starting to come on in regular usage while I was in college. I couldn't email my parents--they sure as hell didn't have email. I'm pretty sure I couldn't even email my sister at that point. Although she and her BF (now husband) were operating his marina on Lake of the Ozarks at the time, I'm not sure they had email accounts associated even with the business.

Now, part of the difference between my sister and I, like utee's experience, is that I was a techie nerd even back in high school. My sister is very smart, but she is absolutely NOT a techie nerd. She's the opposite. So it's possible I was simultaneously ahead of this curve, while my sister was behind it. I think you may have made use of that early-mid 90s connectivity and internet in a way that I did and she didn't, despite you being the same age ahead of me as she was.

But I still consider it wild the degree and the speed at which it changed the world. And then advance another decade and you add the smartphone... Someone who lived in 1920 might recognize the world of 1980. Probably the biggest changes in those 6 decades was TV, widespread electrification, and air travel. Someone who lived in 1970 would probably not recognize the world of 2023. We carry around, in our pockets, a portable communication device that can give us access to nearly all of the world's information... In seconds..
I went to a small school district in a small town.  We had like 180-200 people in our graduating class.  We had computers in intermediate school (5th and 6th grade).  The lovely Apple IIe.  Damn those things were hardy.  We also used them in junior high, we used visicalc and that was the first time I heard the term spreadsheet. 

We played Oregon Trail and Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego.  I got my first computer around about 1986, the most popular home computer ever made, the Commodore 64. We mostly used it to play games, but I did tinker with simple programs from BASIC just copying the lines in the manual.  But it was cool anyways.  

When I was in HS I clearly remember there being a lot of talk about the "Information Superhighway", especially during the '92 Presidential election.  We had no idea what that meant.  It was all futuristic sounding, but nobody knew anything about the internet or email or anything.  

I learned to type on an electric typewriter.  I actually am quite good at typing, it's one of my best skills.  This was about 1992, or 10th grade.  We also had computers at school, 386 machines that we used to do word processing on.  I did take a computer programming class, Pascal.  We totally blew it off and didn't do shit and I've never actually even heard of the Pascal language outside of that one class.  

In 1994 my first year of college (Junior College at that) one of my professors was writing her information on the board and she put down her email address.  I had no idea what it was or how to use it.  That was the first time I recall seeing the @ symbol used that way.  Up until that point, the @ symbol was rarely used in my world.  We got a PC about that time, a 2nd hand 386 computer that had a dial up modem we used to connect to BBS and not much else.  

It seems like between about 1994-1995 things really took off with the internet.  Netscape became a big thing, and we could get on the internet at college on 486 PC's.  I transferred to A&M in 1996 and we had dial up internet included with our student fees ( I lived off campus, no ethernet for me).  I had a class in '96 or '97 where we had to do our chemistry homework on-line.  That was tough because you had to get all the units etc right.  I got my first real PC in 1996 or maybe early 1997, a Packard Bell 133 MHZ Pentium with 4 MB of memory.  I made my first online purchase around Y2k, maybe 1999 where I bought the components and built a PC.  It was a P3 750 MHZ with maybe 64 MB of RAM.  

It seems like within about 3-5 years the internet really took off, from about late 94-98 or so a lot of stuff moved online.  We had dialup internet at my house after college until at least the mid 2000's, maybe until like 2007/2008. I really don't remember but having high speed (2-3 MBps) back then was a real game changer.  


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« Reply #1333 on: November 06, 2023, 11:08:14 AM »
Ah....the 90's, where we had dial-up modems that made phone noises and everything. 

Prior to modems, my folks wouldn't spring for the Commodore 64 despite it being the home computer my friends had.  When we finally got one, they listened to a family friend they thought was a computer whiz and he said the 64 was basically a box with a wire attached to it...barely any actual computing capacity. 

So they got something called an IBM-compatible.  Now commonly known as PCs.  Frustrated me to no end that I couldn't share games on floppy disks with my friends, who had accumulated dozens by that point and would've been happy to let me borrow them.  No, I had to spend my time learning DOS and programs like WordPerfect and some early Newspaper printing program.

Just as I got really good at DOS, Microsoft decided to stick a GUI called Windows on it and hide the whole thing, never to be seen again by the average computer user. 

What I'm trying to say is, screw Microsoft.  Screw my folks for not getting me the Box-of-nothing Commodore 64 that I wanted, and screw the family friend who got them to do it. 
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« Reply #1334 on: November 06, 2023, 11:15:07 AM »
53 in my high school class of 81
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« Reply #1335 on: November 07, 2023, 07:39:07 PM »
I saw some FB list of "Five best colognes for men".  I didn't click on it.

There is clickbait a list for every set of eyeballs thing I guess.
More accurate.
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« Reply #1336 on: November 07, 2023, 07:48:34 PM »
lol @ WordPerfect, omg

Early computer games I recall fondly.....

No clue on the names, btw:

one where everyone is a different immobile tank thing, and you'd estimate the arc of your shot to go up and slowly back down, killing your friends.  It was so tame, but we played the shit out of it.  There were different, fun warheads you could use, too.
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there was a very simple drug dealing game, where you'd just buy low and sell high at different spots around town.  Again, fully basic, but was fun.
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Carmen Sandiego was fun in middle school at school.  It was easy - just an excuse to get kids to get some context with places around the world.  The TV show was so campy, made it less cool. 
“The Swamp is where Gators live.  We feel comfortable there, but we hope our opponents feel tentative. A swamp is hot and sticky and can be dangerous." - Steve Spurrier

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« Reply #1337 on: November 07, 2023, 09:06:45 PM »
one where everyone is a different immobile tank thing, and you'd estimate the arc of your shot to go up and slowly back down, killing your friends.  It was so tame, but we played the shit out of it.  There were different, fun warheads you could use, too.

The more popular was called Scorched Earth. My dad and the draftsman he employed used to always play a variant of it called Tank Wars every day at lunch. 

Fun stuff. As a senior in HS, I took a computer programming class. I quickly realized that the class was useless. I.e. "here's a for loop -- now let's spend the next three weeks practicing them." Yeah... No. I already knew all the stuff they were going to teach and didn't want to be bored out of my skull...

So the final project had to be one program that simply demonstrated that you could use all of the programming techniques. So I started my final project week 1.

It was writing a Scorched Earth / Tank Wars clone, in BASIC, for the Apple IIgs. Utilizing graphics capabilities that weren't part of the class. Hard-coding alphanumeric text into the graphics engine because it couldn't display text natively on top of graphics. Using random generation of terrain and parabolic equations to include wind effect on the projectiles. Even had 3 different sizes of warhead. It was fun. 

I got an A on that... 

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« Reply #1338 on: November 07, 2023, 09:17:40 PM »
Nerd. 

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« Reply #1339 on: November 07, 2023, 10:05:57 PM »
We'd play that until 3am sometimes, eating, drinking, shit-talking.  

A side-win would be using the weapon that heaps land onto your opponent and just burying him. He could never really lose, but he couldn't shoot anything and just get so frustrated, he'd suicide himself if possible.  
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« Reply #1340 on: November 08, 2023, 07:02:34 AM »
U RAH RAH! WIS CON SIN!

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« Reply #1341 on: November 08, 2023, 08:35:15 AM »
The more popular was called Scorched Earth. My dad and the draftsman he employed used to always play a variant of it called Tank Wars every day at lunch.

draftsmen had the best computers for gaming

I was one
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« Reply #1342 on: November 08, 2023, 08:49:53 AM »
There was a "Star Trek" game I used to play in a IIe at work some.  A trick was to get a Klingon to fire a photo at you and move and have another Klingon ship opposite that would get hit.

There also was Lunar Lander.

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« Reply #1343 on: November 08, 2023, 09:30:08 AM »
draftsmen had the best computers for gaming

I was one
Yeah, my house always had a great computer for the day that my dad planned to learn AutoCAD. Which he never actually got around to doing. 

 

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